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In article <173DEE78CS86.BF0698A@american.edu>, BF0698A@american.edu (BO FANG) writes:
|> In article <DBsBqC.12p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
|> blr2w@mamba.cs.Virginia.EDU (Brian L. Robinson) writes:
|>  
|> >
|> >In article <3u1n6q$icj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> scottyang@aol.com (Scott Yang) writes:
|> >>He knowingly broke Chinese laws by entering illegally (doesn't matter what
|> >>one think of the Chinese gov't).  He knew the consequences and the risk.
|> >>Now he needs to live up to him.  If he has any integrity, he will live up
|> >>to the consequences.  Sure, he's no William Wallace, but should at least
|> >>take responsiblity for his actions and not wait for Amnesity Int'l and
|> >>CLinton to save his hide.  He want's to be a hero, he'll have suffer or
|> >>even die like one.
|> >>
|> >>-Scott
|> >
|> >There seems to be an awful lot of criticism or apathy for Harry Wu.
|> >There is of course the issue of whether things he has complained about
|> >are really human rights violations.  I for one don't see anything
|> >particularly wrong with prison labor camps or using executed prisoners
|> >as organ donors (provided of course that the labor is done in humane
|> >conditions and the prisoners are executed for their crime, not for
|> >their organs).
|> >
|> >But most people haven't taken issue with that, so let's assume for a
|> >moment that he does have a legitimate beef with the Chinese
|> >government.  Shouldn't he have our support simply on moral grounds?
|> >Sure he broke a few laws, but those laws were being used to protect a
|> >brutal system.  Nelson Mandela broke a few laws, but we wanted him
|> >freed.
|> >
|> >I think a question we need to consider with Harry Wu before we start
|> >comparing him to other people who have committed crimes abroad, is who
|> >exactly was being hurt by his crime, and how just the law he broke
|> >was.  For example, the kid in Singapore was actually causing damage.
|> >Spray painting causes property damage and hurts people.
|> >
|> >Or you might consider someone drinking in Iran.  We may not think
|> >their hurting anyone, but their government thinks they are, and we can
|> >agree that their not _helping_ anyone.
|> >
|> >Harry Wu was trying to change a system that our country's foreign
|> >policy says must be changed.  He wasn't hurting anyone, and he was
|> >trying to help people.  Furthermore he is an American citizen.  We
|> >certainly should make efforts to have him released.  And it might be a
|> >good idea after this blows over for the President on whether or not we
|> >will provide such help in the future, if we think it's necessary to
|> >dissuade other lone ranger types who don't have either permission or
|> >mission from our government.
|> >--
|>  
|> I agree with you. What Hu did is just to tell the truth.
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I know what *truth* are in your mind. :)



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|> >discrimination should be made whole; but under our Constitution there can be
|> >no such thing as either a creditor or debtor race...In the eyes of
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