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Article #196Re: Harry Wu Arrested! Amnesty International Call for Support!
From: Guanghua Gao
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <DBsBqC.12p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, blr2w@mamba.cs.Virginia.EDU (Brian L. Robinson) writes: |> In article <3u1n6q$icj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> scottyang@aol.com (Scott Yang) writes: |> >He knowingly broke Chinese laws by entering illegally (doesn't matter what |> >one think of the Chinese gov't). He knew the consequences and the risk. |> >Now he needs to live up to him. If he has any integrity, he will live up |> >to the consequences. Sure, he's no William Wallace, but should at least |> >take responsiblity for his actions and not wait for Amnesity Int'l and |> >CLinton to save his hide. He want's to be a hero, he'll have suffer or |> >even die like one. |> > |> >-Scott I think many netters have made that clear. Harry Wu's crusade is not about human rights, it's about revenge. He is hurting heck alot of Chinese as well *directly*. He has been campaigning for the remove of MFN. If he suceeds, many of my friends will lost their jobs. It's plain simple. If some American citizens go to other countries, say Japan and German, advocate banning import of hiking import taxes from US just because of chain gangs in Alabama, Rodney King beating in Los Angles or shooting to death of Japanese exchange student and Germany tourists in Florida, what will be American people's feeling toward these guys. What if these guys using outragous numbers, such as one third of products from the state of Alabama are produced by chain gangs, one third of population in midwest supported the shooting of the Japanese exchange students because the killer walked free? It's plain simple. If you ever tried to think about Harry Wu case in a Chinese people's view, especially those whose relatives and friends' job security are constantly threatened, you'll have a much different view. Guanghua Gao |> |> There seems to be an awful lot of criticism or apathy for Harry Wu. |> There is of course the issue of whether things he has complained about |> are really human rights violations. I for one don't see anything |> particularly wrong with prison labor camps or using executed prisoners |> as organ donors (provided of course that the labor is done in humane |> conditions and the prisoners are executed for their crime, not for |> their organs). |> |> But most people haven't taken issue with that, so let's assume for a |> moment that he does have a legitimate beef with the Chinese |> government. Shouldn't he have our support simply on moral grounds? |> Sure he broke a few laws, but those laws were being used to protect a |> brutal system. Nelson Mandela broke a few laws, but we wanted him |> freed. |> |> I think a question we need to consider with Harry Wu before we start |> comparing him to other people who have committed crimes abroad, is who |> exactly was being hurt by his crime, and how just the law he broke |> was. For example, the kid in Singapore was actually causing damage. |> Spray painting causes property damage and hurts people. |> |> Or you might consider someone drinking in Iran. We may not think |> their hurting anyone, but their government thinks they are, and we can |> agree that their not _helping_ anyone. |> |> Harry Wu was trying to change a system that our country's foreign |> policy says must be changed. He wasn't hurting anyone, and he was |> trying to help people. Furthermore he is an American citizen. We |> certainly should make efforts to have him released. And it might be a |> good idea after this blows over for the President on whether or not we |> will provide such help in the future, if we think it's necessary to |> dissuade other lone ranger types who don't have either permission or |> mission from our government. |> -- |> blr2w@Virginia.EDU ***** "Individuals who have been wronged by unlawful |> discrimination should be made whole; but under our Constitution there can be |> no such thing as either a creditor or debtor race...In the eyes of |> government, we are just one race here. It is American." - Justice Scalia
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3ab,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ab,public X-Google-Thread: fac03,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac03,public X-Google-Thread: 1180d8,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gid1180d8,public X-Google-Thread: 133807,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gid133807,public X-Google-Thread: 1042ac,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gid1042ac,public X-Google-Thread: f9731,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9731,public X-Google-Thread: 10b4ed,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b4ed,public X-Google-Thread: f8c35,b9c1ce0bc439524 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8c35,public From: gao@wag.caltech.edu (Guanghua Gao) Subject: Re: Harry Wu Arrested! Amnesty International Call for Support! Date: 1995/07/18 Message-ID: <3ufcsd$pkc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> X-Deja-AN: 106502100 distribution: world sender: gao@sgi1 (Guanghua Gao) references: <3u0rqh$hha@saba.info.ucla.edu> <3u1n6q$icj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <DBsBqC.12p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> organization: M/MSC newsgroups: cornell.general,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.asian.american,talk.politics.china,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.equality,cornell.talk.general,cornell.talk.politics