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Re: Where is the detailed Sysex Spec?

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From: NTX
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:18
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Roland,

I think the APS drivers predate the MIDI spec that you are referring to.
(Too bad)  I have heard of people adjusting soundfonts to acheive scales
outside of equal temperment (most time consuming and not flexible) and the
other suggestion has been to use pitch bends (pain in the...)

I am not sure that there is an easy fix for what you are looking for.  To my
knowledge it is rare for even soft synths to have such a feature ( I think
VaZ Modular has a 'scale tuning' function but other than that I don't know
of any.)   I am not that familiar with some of the newer software samplers
(Gigasampler and Unity) but I would hope that they may be more capable in
this area.

I am most curious how you intend to apply Octave Scale Tuning and what style
(or tradition) of music you are working with.

NTX





"Roland Fr�hlich" <Roland.Froehlich@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:3B5D0E81.7D4025B0@t-online.de...
> Eric,
> thank for your answer. But Pitchbend or NRPNs are not applicable for my
> applications.
> There are to less channels or to many bytes.
> Because this the MMA has introduced the "Sysex Real-Time Octave Scale
Tuning"
> message
> in the year 1999.
>
> Eric Vela schrieb:
>
> > Just a thought... Are you talking about MIDI pitch bend/wheel
controller? If
> > so, that's not a sysex. You can set the amount the wheel controller will
> > bend the pitch with MIDI RPN 0. (I never remember the math correctly so
I
> > always have to keep guessing at formulas to set it. I believe it has a
> > maximum range of +/- 2 octaves but don't quote me on it. I do know it is
an
> > instant change in pitch without any portamento -- meaning unlike the
fast
> > but audible gliss effect you get with Microsoft's software synth in
Windows
> > 2000.)
> >
> > As for NPRNs or sysex, I'm sorry I can't say. There may be NPRNs, but I
have
> > not been able to find any sysex. I tend to use transpose features for
> > one-time coarse tuning (I know it's different than modifying the
instrument
> > settings) and wide pitch wheel ranges to circumvent phrasing issues with
> > certain instruments.
> >
> > Good luck
> > Eric.
> > "Roland Fr�hlich" <Roland.Froehlich@t-online.de> wrote in message
> > news:3B5BF9B0.D83A55EC@t-online.de...
> > Where is the official place to obtain from EMU/Creative the COMPLETE
> > Sysex implementation chart ?
> > I have nothing found in the Web.
> > If you are working with Yamaha products, there a tons of detailed
> > information,
> > but what happens with Creative Labs?
> >
> > Especially interested in : Real-Time Octave Scale Tuning.
> > Is this implemented today in any activ product? (official MIDI spec is
> > from 1999!).
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Roland.
>
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