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Cool! Now, if Samsung would do the same for the 8435E and 8438E...

"Jason Chong" <cvw@pc.jaring.my> wrote in message
news:3B7DFB98.35A0@pc.jaring.my...
> Guess what ? I dissected the firmware upgrade flasher for cw-7586 1.01
> and 1.08 .
>
> Creative-CDRW IS recognized by the flasher and WILL update the firmware
> on 8439E and 8433E, it looks to me like, the 'official' support for
> 8433E and 8439E are the firmwares from www.acscompro.com
>
> If not, why would they be able to detect creative's ID string ?
> Seems to me , THIS could be the official firmware/flasher since
> it detects 8439E and 8433E's ID string.
>
> This is what it looks for...
>
>
> Win32 Flasher LD7586.EXE :
>
>
>  
4B $4B �QB         P�@ _+@ __@ �MA -;A         +MA         _;A
> MATSHITACD
> -RW  CW-7585P MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585  COMPAQ  CD-RW  CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW
> 8433E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586P MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7586
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121P
> MATSHIT
> ACD-RW  CW-7121  DATAEND                 MKE ATAPI CD-RW DOWN LOAD
> UTILITY   Ve
> rsion 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI
> ELECTORONICS IND.
>  CO., LTD  Information Equipment Development Center    LD7585  LD7586
> LD7121
> LD7XXX  FILE_DOWNLD Version 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    %s(
> %13.13s)
>  This Program No run %-8.8s %-16.16s %-4.4s  MKE CD-R(W) DRIVE CW-%4.4s
> NotFoun
> d Drive No Goood Selectd
> %16.16s  MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD   Firm Ware Files (*.Rom)
> | *.Rom; | Binary Files (*.Bin) | *.bin; | All Files (*.*) | *.*; ||
> *.ROM
> ROM DOWN LOAD FILE OPEN MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD  File not found  MKE CD-RW
> DOWNLOAD
>
>
>
>
> DOS flasher D7586.EXE:
>
>                                                              MS Run-Time
> Librar
> y - Copyright (c) 1990, Microsoft Corp  OK
>                 END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585 COMPAQ  CD-RW
> CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND                MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586
> CREATIVECD
> -RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121 DATAEND
>     B b
> H b
> N b
> T b
> Z b
> ` b
> f b
> l b
> r b
> x b
> ~ b
> � b
> 1.02(2000/09/26) %s version
>  %s
>  %s [/d DriveNumber] [RomFile][/y]
>
>  DriveNumber 0 : Primary Master
>
>       1 : Primary Slave
>              2 : Secondary Master
>              3 : Seco
> ndary Slave
>  Filename =  Select Drive
>    0 : Primary Master
>    1 : Primary Slav
> e
>    2 : Secondary Master
>    3 : Secondary Slave
>    Q : Quit
>  Input Drive Numbe
> r =   Heep Space Can not Allocate
>  CW-7586P Drive Not Ready
>
> Data =
>  .
> CDB
>  = %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X   OK
>                               END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585
> COMPAQ  C
> D-RW  CW-7585 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND
> MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7
> 586 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7121 DATAE

I have passed this info onto the drives team to hopefully get it added into
ECDC 5 and DCD 5 in the future. It is unlikely that further drives will be
added to ECDC 4/DCD 3
--

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"Jason Chong" <cvw@pc.jaring.my> wrote in message
news:3B7DFB98.35A0@pc.jaring.my...
> Guess what ? I dissected the firmware upgrade flasher for cw-7586 1.01
> and 1.08 .
>
> Creative-CDRW IS recognized by the flasher and WILL update the firmware
> on 8439E and 8433E, it looks to me like, the 'official' support for
> 8433E and 8439E are the firmwares from www.acscompro.com
>
> If not, why would they be able to detect creative's ID string ?
> Seems to me , THIS could be the official firmware/flasher since
> it detects 8439E and 8433E's ID string.
>
> This is what it looks for...
>
>
> Win32 Flasher LD7586.EXE :
>
>
>  
4B $4B �QB         P�@ _+@ __@ �MA -;A         +MA         _;A
> MATSHITACD
> -RW  CW-7585P MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585  COMPAQ  CD-RW  CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW
> 8433E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586P MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7586
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121P
> MATSHIT
> ACD-RW  CW-7121  DATAEND                 MKE ATAPI CD-RW DOWN LOAD
> UTILITY   Ve
> rsion 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI
> ELECTORONICS IND.
>  CO., LTD  Information Equipment Development Center    LD7585  LD7586
> LD7121
> LD7XXX  FILE_DOWNLD Version 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    %s(
> %13.13s)
>  This Program No run %-8.8s %-16.16s %-4.4s  MKE CD-R(W) DRIVE CW-%4.4s
> NotFoun
> d Drive No Goood Selectd
> %16.16s  MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD   Firm Ware Files (*.Rom)
> | *.Rom; | Binary Files (*.Bin) | *.bin; | All Files (*.*) | *.*; ||
> *.ROM
> ROM DOWN LOAD FILE OPEN MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD  File not found  MKE CD-RW
> DOWNLOAD
>
>
>
>
> DOS flasher D7586.EXE:
>
>                                                              MS Run-Time
> Librar
> y - Copyright (c) 1990, Microsoft Corp  OK
>                 END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585 COMPAQ  CD-RW
> CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND                MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586
> CREATIVECD
> -RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121 DATAEND
>     B b
> H b
> N b
> T b
> Z b
> ` b
> f b
> l b
> r b
> x b
> ~ b
> � b
> 1.02(2000/09/26) %s version
>  %s
>  %s [/d DriveNumber] [RomFile][/y]
>
>  DriveNumber 0 : Primary Master
>
>       1 : Primary Slave
>              2 : Secondary Master
>              3 : Seco
> ndary Slave
>  Filename =  Select Drive
>    0 : Primary Master
>    1 : Primary Slav
> e
>    2 : Secondary Master
>    3 : Secondary Slave
>    Q : Quit
>  Input Drive Numbe
> r =   Heep Space Can not Allocate
>  CW-7586P Drive Not Ready
>
> Data =
>  .
> CDB
>  = %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X   OK
>                               END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585
> COMPAQ  C
> D-RW  CW-7585 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND
> MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7
> 586 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7121 DATAE

"Jason Chong" <cvw@pc.jaring.my> wrote in message
news:3B7DFB98.35A0@pc.jaring.my...
> Guess what ? I dissected the firmware upgrade flasher for cw-7586 1.01
> and 1.08 .
>
> Creative-CDRW IS recognized by the flasher and WILL update the firmware
> on 8439E and 8433E, it looks to me like, the 'official' support for
> 8433E and 8439E are the firmwares from www.acscompro.com
>
> If not, why would they be able to detect creative's ID string ?
> Seems to me , THIS could be the official firmware/flasher since
> it detects 8439E and 8433E's ID string.
>
> This is what it looks for...
>
>
> Win32 Flasher LD7586.EXE :
>
>
>  
4B $4B �QB         P�@ _+@ __@ �MA -;A         +MA         _;A
> MATSHITACD
> -RW  CW-7585P MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585  COMPAQ  CD-RW  CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW
> 8433E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586P MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7586
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121P
> MATSHIT
> ACD-RW  CW-7121  DATAEND                 MKE ATAPI CD-RW DOWN LOAD
> UTILITY   Ve
> rsion 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI
> ELECTORONICS IND.
>  CO., LTD  Information Equipment Development Center    LD7585  LD7586
> LD7121
> LD7XXX  FILE_DOWNLD Version 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    %s(
> %13.13s)
>  This Program No run %-8.8s %-16.16s %-4.4s  MKE CD-R(W) DRIVE CW-%4.4s
> NotFoun
> d Drive No Goood Selectd
> %16.16s  MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD   Firm Ware Files (*.Rom)
> | *.Rom; | Binary Files (*.Bin) | *.bin; | All Files (*.*) | *.*; ||
> *.ROM
> ROM DOWN LOAD FILE OPEN MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD  File not found  MKE CD-RW
> DOWNLOAD
>
>
>
>
> DOS flasher D7586.EXE:
>
>                                                              MS Run-Time
> Librar
> y - Copyright (c) 1990, Microsoft Corp  OK
>                 END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585 COMPAQ  CD-RW
> CW-7585
> CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND                MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586
> CREATIVECD
> -RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121 DATAEND
>     B b
> H b
> N b
> T b
> Z b
> ` b
> f b
> l b
> r b
> x b
> ~ b
> � b
> 1.02(2000/09/26) %s version
>  %s
>  %s [/d DriveNumber] [RomFile][/y]
>
>  DriveNumber 0 : Primary Master
>
>       1 : Primary Slave
>              2 : Secondary Master
>              3 : Seco
> ndary Slave
>  Filename =  Select Drive
>    0 : Primary Master
>    1 : Primary Slav
> e
>    2 : Secondary Master
>    3 : Secondary Slave
>    Q : Quit
>  Input Drive Numbe
> r =   Heep Space Can not Allocate
>  CW-7586P Drive Not Ready
>
> Data =
>  .
> CDB
>  = %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X   OK
>                               END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585
> COMPAQ  C
> D-RW  CW-7585 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND
> MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7
> 586 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW
> CW-7121 DATAE

That is wonderful...whatever all that stuff says....But since YOU seem to
understand what is Greek to me, do you think you can tell me what drive the
5220F/5233E/4108 from Creative are based on?  Then maybe I could get MY
piece of shit to work.  Many thanks in advance.

Looks as tho you are quite knowledgeable on the subject! It seems that
someone has stated that the manufacturer of the 8438E might be Samsung.
Would you know, if it is Samsung, what the Samsung model no. might be?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Ron
"mbh831" <mbh831@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9lnj8a$6cu$1@news.creativelabs.com...
>
> "Jason Chong" <cvw@pc.jaring.my> wrote in message
> news:3B7DFB98.35A0@pc.jaring.my...
> > Guess what ? I dissected the firmware upgrade flasher for cw-7586 1.01
> > and 1.08 .
> >
> > Creative-CDRW IS recognized by the flasher and WILL update the firmware
> > on 8439E and 8433E, it looks to me like, the 'official' support for
> > 8433E and 8439E are the firmwares from www.acscompro.com
> >
> > If not, why would they be able to detect creative's ID string ?
> > Seems to me , THIS could be the official firmware/flasher since
> > it detects 8439E and 8433E's ID string.
> >
> > This is what it looks for...
> >
> >
> > Win32 Flasher LD7586.EXE :
> >
> >
> >  
4B $4B �QB         P�@ _+@ __@ �MA -;A         +MA         _;A
> > MATSHITACD
> > -RW  CW-7585P MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585  COMPAQ  CD-RW  CW-7585
> > CREATIVECD-RW  RW
> > 8433E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586P MATSHITACD-RW
> > CW-7586
> > CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E  DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121P
> > MATSHIT
> > ACD-RW  CW-7121  DATAEND                 MKE ATAPI CD-RW DOWN LOAD
> > UTILITY   Ve
> > rsion 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    MATSUSHITA-KOTOBUKI
> > ELECTORONICS IND.
> >  CO., LTD  Information Equipment Development Center    LD7585  LD7586
> > LD7121
> > LD7XXX  FILE_DOWNLD Version 1.02  Copyright (C)  2000. 09.26    %s(
> > %13.13s)
> >  This Program No run %-8.8s %-16.16s %-4.4s  MKE CD-R(W) DRIVE CW-%4.4s
> > NotFoun
> > d Drive No Goood Selectd
> > %16.16s  MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD   Firm Ware Files (*.Rom)
> > | *.Rom; | Binary Files (*.Bin) | *.bin; | All Files (*.*) | *.*; ||
> > *.ROM
> > ROM DOWN LOAD FILE OPEN MKE CD-RW DOWNLOAD  File not found  MKE CD-RW
> > DOWNLOAD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > DOS flasher D7586.EXE:
> >
> >                                                              MS Run-Time
> > Librar
> > y - Copyright (c) 1990, Microsoft Corp  OK
> >                 END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585 COMPAQ  CD-RW
> > CW-7585
> > CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND                MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7586
> > CREATIVECD
> > -RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7121 DATAEND
> >     B b
> > H b
> > N b
> > T b
> > Z b
> > ` b
> > f b
> > l b
> > r b
> > x b
> > ~ b
> > � b
> > 1.02(2000/09/26) %s version
> >  %s
> >  %s [/d DriveNumber] [RomFile][/y]
> >
> >  DriveNumber 0 : Primary Master
> >
> >       1 : Primary Slave
> >              2 : Secondary Master
> >              3 : Seco
> > ndary Slave
> >  Filename =  Select Drive
> >    0 : Primary Master
> >    1 : Primary Slav
> > e
> >    2 : Secondary Master
> >    3 : Secondary Slave
> >    Q : Quit
> >  Input Drive Numbe
> > r =   Heep Space Can not Allocate
> >  CW-7586P Drive Not Ready
> >
> > Data =
> >  .
> > CDB
> >  = %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X %02X   OK
> >                               END              MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7585
> > COMPAQ  C
> > D-RW  CW-7585 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8433E DATAEND
> > MATSHITACD-RW  CW-7
> > 586 CREATIVECD-RW  RW8439E DATAEND                 MATSHITACD-RW
> > CW-7121 DATAE
>
> That is wonderful...whatever all that stuff says....But since YOU seem to
> understand what is Greek to me, do you think you can tell me what drive
the
> 5220F/5233E/4108 from Creative are based on?  Then maybe I could get MY
> piece of shit to work.  Many thanks in advance.
>
>

Ron Love wrote:
> 
> Looks as tho you are quite knowledgeable on the subject! It seems that
> someone has stated that the manufacturer of the 8438E might be Samsung.
> Would you know, if it is Samsung, what the Samsung model no. might be?
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Ron


Well from what i read it could be a samsung, but it is also NOT
flashable
due to a 'sector protection' so any new firmware could not be completely
loaded complete. So DO NOT flash this 8438E model or else you will get
a dead drive.

The EEPROM used from what I read, prevents any tampering with the
firmware
or else you get a dead drive.