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Milt wrote:
> Haven't used it for a few months, plugged it in, tried to turn it on, 
> nothing, hit the reset button, try to turn it on, nothing. I'm not sure 
> what else to try. I'd hate to write it off, however, I have gotten 
> almost 4 years of good use out of it.
> 
> Any other ideas? Oh yeah, this is the 6 gig model, silver-colored.


Turns out that its just the power supply that seems to have gone odd. 
Best I can tell, I was looking into a replacement power supply but 
Nomadness.net says the correct power supply for a Jukebox is a 12v DC. 
HOWEVER, the back of the Jukebox says it should be a 9V DC and the power 
supply I have been using on it has been a 9V. Wouldn't using a 12v power 
supply on a unti asking for 9V be asking for trouble?

Milt <netrage@dunspammiltsweb.com> writes:

> Milt wrote:
> > Haven't used it for a few months, plugged it in, tried to turn it
> > on, nothing, hit the reset button, try to turn it on, nothing. I'm
> > not sure what else to try. I'd hate to write it off, however, I have
> > gotten almost 4 years of good use out of it.
> > Any other ideas? Oh yeah, this is the 6 gig model, silver-colored.
> 
> 
> Turns out that its just the power supply that seems to have gone
> odd. Best I can tell, I was looking into a replacement power supply
> but Nomadness.net says the correct power supply for a Jukebox is a 12v
> DC. HOWEVER, the back of the Jukebox says it should be a 9V DC and the
> power supply I have been using on it has been a 9V. Wouldn't using a
> 12v power supply on a unti asking for 9V be asking for trouble?

Yes it would.  

My original NJB uses a beefy 9V 2.0amp DC power supply.    Any 9V DC
power supply of 2A capacity or better (that'll be the hard part)
should do, provided the polarity of the connector is correct and
matches your current power supply. 

What page  are you seeing a 12V supply recommended? 

Best Regards, 
--
Todd H.  
http://toddh.net/

Milt wrote:
> Milt wrote:
>> Haven't used it for a few months, plugged it in, tried to turn it on, 
>> nothing, hit the reset button, try to turn it on, nothing. I'm not 
>> sure what else to try. I'd hate to write it off, however, I have 
>> gotten almost 4 years of good use out of it.
>>
>> Any other ideas? Oh yeah, this is the 6 gig model, silver-colored.
> 
> 
> Turns out that its just the power supply that seems to have gone odd. 
> Best I can tell, I was looking into a replacement power supply but 
> Nomadness.net says the correct power supply for a Jukebox is a 12v DC. 
> HOWEVER, the back of the Jukebox says it should be a 9V DC and the power 
> supply I have been using on it has been a 9V. Wouldn't using a 12v power 
> supply on a unti asking for 9V be asking for trouble?

The original DAP, Nomad Jukebox (NJB1):
http://home.pacbell.net/clayt/06031509470_1aa.jpg
uses 9-12V DC.
They will run straight off a cigarette lighter adapter in the car or a 
12V AC adapter.
Beware though, any old AC adapter may not work. Seems they're not very 
well regulated and can put out too much DC volts. I know, I bought one. 
Plugged in my NJB and killed it instantly. Metered it afterwards, only 
to find out it made 22 no load volts.
Go with a Creative one or at least, meter the one you get *before* you 
plug your NJB into it.
The internal batteries will go after a while and not charge. It will 
still run on AC though.

The NJB2/NJB3 uses 5V DC

clay wrote:
> Milt wrote:
>> Milt wrote:
>>> Haven't used it for a few months, plugged it in, tried to turn it on, 
>>> nothing, hit the reset button, try to turn it on, nothing. I'm not 
>>> sure what else to try. I'd hate to write it off, however, I have 
>>> gotten almost 4 years of good use out of it.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas? Oh yeah, this is the 6 gig model, silver-colored.
>>
>>
>> Turns out that its just the power supply that seems to have gone odd. 
>> Best I can tell, I was looking into a replacement power supply but 
>> Nomadness.net says the correct power supply for a Jukebox is a 12v DC. 
>> HOWEVER, the back of the Jukebox says it should be a 9V DC and the 
>> power supply I have been using on it has been a 9V. Wouldn't using a 
>> 12v power supply on a unti asking for 9V be asking for trouble?
> 
> The original DAP, Nomad Jukebox (NJB1):
> http://home.pacbell.net/clayt/06031509470_1aa.jpg
> uses 9-12V DC.
> They will run straight off a cigarette lighter adapter in the car or a 
> 12V AC adapter.
> Beware though, any old AC adapter may not work. Seems they're not very 
> well regulated and can put out too much DC volts. I know, I bought one. 
> Plugged in my NJB and killed it instantly. Metered it afterwards, only 
> to find out it made 22 no load volts.
> Go with a Creative one or at least, meter the one you get *before* you 
> plug your NJB into it.
> The internal batteries will go after a while and not charge. It will 
> still run on AC though.
> 
> The NJB2/NJB3 uses 5V DC


yup, that looks like mine, except mine is all Silver. I have a car 
adapter for it, just trying to find one for in the house because hooking 
it to the computer to load, unload it on battery power would be a total 
pain in the ass. I've got other adaptors but nothing that matches what 
was on it. So, I think I'll play it safe and just go shopping for a new 
AC adapter.

Milt wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Milt wrote:
>>> Milt wrote:
>>>> Haven't used it for a few months, plugged it in, tried to turn it 
>>>> on, nothing, hit the reset button, try to turn it on, nothing. I'm 
>>>> not sure what else to try. I'd hate to write it off, however, I have 
>>>> gotten almost 4 years of good use out of it.
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas? Oh yeah, this is the 6 gig model, silver-colored.
>>>
>>>
>>> Turns out that its just the power supply that seems to have gone odd. 
>>> Best I can tell, I was looking into a replacement power supply but 
>>> Nomadness.net says the correct power supply for a Jukebox is a 12v 
>>> DC. HOWEVER, the back of the Jukebox says it should be a 9V DC and 
>>> the power supply I have been using on it has been a 9V. Wouldn't 
>>> using a 12v power supply on a unti asking for 9V be asking for trouble?
>>
>> The original DAP, Nomad Jukebox (NJB1):
>> http://home.pacbell.net/clayt/06031509470_1aa.jpg
>> uses 9-12V DC.
>> They will run straight off a cigarette lighter adapter in the car or a 
>> 12V AC adapter.
>> Beware though, any old AC adapter may not work. Seems they're not very 
>> well regulated and can put out too much DC volts. I know, I bought 
>> one. Plugged in my NJB and killed it instantly. Metered it afterwards, 
>> only to find out it made 22 no load volts.
>> Go with a Creative one or at least, meter the one you get *before* you 
>> plug your NJB into it.
>> The internal batteries will go after a while and not charge. It will 
>> still run on AC though.
>>
>> The NJB2/NJB3 uses 5V DC
> 
> 
> yup, that looks like mine, except mine is all Silver. I have a car 
> adapter for it, just trying to find one for in the house because hooking 
> it to the computer to load, unload it on battery power would be a total 
> pain in the ass. I've got other adaptors but nothing that matches what 
> was on it. So, I think I'll play it safe and just go shopping for a new 
> AC adapter.

If you're into messing with such things, there was much development on 
the firmware for this unit. The last release did some good things with 
power usage, battery charging, etc.
Not sure where to find it anymore. StainlessSteelRat might have it on 
his site yet.
I /may/ have it laying around on one of my boxes still...

clay wrote:
> 
> If you're into messing with such things, there was much development on 
> the firmware for this unit. The last release did some good things with 
> power usage, battery charging, etc.
> Not sure where to find it anymore. StainlessSteelRat might have it on 
> his site yet.
> I /may/ have it laying around on one of my boxes still...

I think I have the latest firmware on the device currently. I know I 
upgraded a a year or 2 ago and one of the big changes I noticed was the 
volume control became a scroll wheel! I always wished there would have 
been a "select all" function on the unit but I just took to making 
playlists on the computer with all the songs in it, easiest way to do it 
when I just want to random play everything on the player. But I'm sure 
development is long since abandoned on this old player. However, I don't 
plan to replace it until it dies, and it will probably be with a Zen. As 
I've yet to see an iPod with this longevity!

Milt wrote:
> clay wrote:
>>
>> If you're into messing with such things, there was much development on 
>> the firmware for this unit. The last release did some good things with 
>> power usage, battery charging, etc.
>> Not sure where to find it anymore. StainlessSteelRat might have it on 
>> his site yet.
>> I /may/ have it laying around on one of my boxes still...
> 
> I think I have the latest firmware on the device currently. I know I 
> upgraded a a year or 2 ago and one of the big changes I noticed was the 
> volume control became a scroll wheel! I always wished there would have 
> been a "select all" function on the unit but I just took to making 
> playlists on the computer with all the songs in it, easiest way to do it 
> when I just want to random play everything on the player. But I'm sure 
> development is long since abandoned on this old player. However, I don't 
> plan to replace it until it dies, and it will probably be with a Zen. As 
> I've yet to see an iPod with this longevity!

Sounds like you have the latest.
There's a setting to turn off the charge circuit. Yours is not turned 
off, is it?
It's been a long time but I seem to recall the player won't start if the 
batteries are completely flat. Might try a fresh set of rechargeables or 
charge them and put them back in the unit.

I bought Notmad specifically for the feature that 'shuffles' playlists. 
I could create an 'All Tracks' playlist and shuffle it up to randomize 
it. Once in a while, shuffle it again so I don't hear the same songs in 
order...
Mine was originally a 6 gig. I put a 20 gig in it and when I bought my 
NJB3, I put an 80 gig in the NJB3 and put the 40 gig I took out of it in 
the NJB1.
The NJB1 is retired to desk duty now. The NJB3 only gets used on 
extended trips and recording sessions, and I have a MuVo� for daily 
listening... No Iplods for this guy!

clay wrote:
> Sounds like you have the latest.
> There's a setting to turn off the charge circuit. Yours is not turned 
> off, is it?
> It's been a long time but I seem to recall the player won't start if the 
> batteries are completely flat. Might try a fresh set of rechargeables or 
> charge them and put them back in the unit.
> 
> I bought Notmad specifically for the feature that 'shuffles' playlists. 
> I could create an 'All Tracks' playlist and shuffle it up to randomize 
> it. Once in a while, shuffle it again so I don't hear the same songs in 
> order...
> Mine was originally a 6 gig. I put a 20 gig in it and when I bought my 
> NJB3, I put an 80 gig in the NJB3 and put the 40 gig I took out of it in 
> the NJB1.
> The NJB1 is retired to desk duty now. The NJB3 only gets used on 
> extended trips and recording sessions, and I have a MuVo� for daily 
> listening... No Iplods for this guy!

Nope, that's not the issue, even tried pulling the batteries out, no 
dice. Just tried it with a fully charged set and plug the AC in and it 
only shows its running off the batteries, not the AC. So it seems the 
adaptor is gone out, at least I hope its that and not the AC socket! 
I've been thinking of getting a ZEN but for now this old 6 gig has been 
holding enough for me!

Milt wrote:
> clay wrote:
>> Sounds like you have the latest.
>> There's a setting to turn off the charge circuit. Yours is not turned 
>> off, is it?
>> It's been a long time but I seem to recall the player won't start if 
>> the batteries are completely flat. Might try a fresh set of 
>> rechargeables or charge them and put them back in the unit.
>>...
> 
> Nope, that's not the issue, even tried pulling the batteries out, no 
> dice. Just tried it with a fully charged set and plug the AC in and it 
> only shows its running off the batteries, not the AC. So it seems the 
> adaptor is gone out, at least I hope its that and not the AC socket! 
> I've been thinking of getting a ZEN but for now this old 6 gig has been 
> holding enough for me!

If it turns out to be the socket, you can probably crack the case and 
fix it. The board is fairly primitive (read:not too micro miniaturized) 
so getting at it to re solder should be easy.
Pop over to news   jumpingcholla   com and subscribe to the nomad groups 
there. A little more active than here. Couple old timers from way back 
still post there.
One of them (Jake, I think) built a FrankenJukebox that used a NJB1, SLA 
battery, a couple speakers, all in a bowling ball bag. Great at picnics 
or long weekends. Probably have a good idea how the socket is attached.