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Whoops, I forgot to mention I am east of Los Angeles, CA, USA, for local 
store locations. :D


On 3/1/2009 12:54 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Hello!
> 
> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's 
> subwoofer from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency 
> bass very well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass 
> problem. I unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod 
> and I still heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little 
> bass. :( If I turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear 
> this loud and annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice 
> if I wiggle the power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is 
> that normal?
> 
> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find 
> a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
> 
> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs 
> for anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is 
> fine since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or 
> higher setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV 
> shows, videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle 
> very low frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when 
> they didn't have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a 
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see 
> and hear the new speaker sets in person before buying one.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
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Oh, and I am looking for local stores to see and hear the speakers.


On 3/1/2009 12:54 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Hello!
> 
> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's 
> subwoofer from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency 
> bass very well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass 
> problem. I unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod 
> and I still heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little 
> bass. :( If I turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear 
> this loud and annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice 
> if I wiggle the power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is 
> that normal?
> 
> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find 
> a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
> 
> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs 
> for anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is 
> fine since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or 
> higher setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV 
> shows, videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle 
> very low frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when 
> they didn't have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a 
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see 
> and hear the new speaker sets in person before buying one.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
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"Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message 
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> Hello!
>
> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's subwoofer 
> from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency bass very 
> well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass problem. I 
> unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod and I still 
> heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little bass. :( If I 
> turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear this loud and 
> annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice if I wiggle the 
> power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is that normal?
>
> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find a 
> new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch ProMedia 
> 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more speakers), but no 
> one seems to have them like Best Buy.
>
> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs for 
> anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is fine 
> since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or higher 
> setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV shows, 
> videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle very low 
> frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when they didn't 
> have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a Creative Sound 
> Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see and hear the new 
> speaker sets in person before buying one.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
> -- 
>

I have Creative 7.1 surround speakers, although using in 2.1 mode right now. 
Lovely range, never clips on anything until it's distorting anyway.  Can get 
very very loud without any problems and I now use the setup instead of a 
guitar amp too. Probably as loud as a 30w combo amp with better bass 
response.

If I'm playing music through it, you can still hear the bass outside the 
house and we have stone walls 2 feet thick. 

On 3/1/2009 2:55 PM PT, Schrodinger typed:

> "Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message 
> news:bvCdnbHWu4WEazfUnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> Hello!
>>
>> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's subwoofer 
>> from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency bass very 
>> well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass problem. I 
>> unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod and I still 
>> heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little bass. :( If I 
>> turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear this loud and 
>> annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice if I wiggle the 
>> power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is that normal?
>>
>> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find a 
>> new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch ProMedia 
>> 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more speakers), but no 
>> one seems to have them like Best Buy.
>>
>> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs for 
>> anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is fine 
>> since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or higher 
>> setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV shows, 
>> videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle very low 
>> frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when they didn't 
>> have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a Creative Sound 
>> Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see and hear the new 
>> speaker sets in person before buying one.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>> -- 
>>
> 
> I have Creative 7.1 surround speakers, although using in 2.1 mode right now. 
> Lovely range, never clips on anything until it's distorting anyway.  Can get 
> very very loud without any problems and I now use the setup instead of a 
> guitar amp too. Probably as loud as a 30w combo amp with better bass 
> response.

Do they have 2.1/4.1 version? Are those Soundworks models shown on 
http://us.creative.com/products/welcomenew.asp?category=4 ?

> 
> If I'm playing music through it, you can still hear the bass outside the 
> house and we have stone walls 2 feet thick. 

Dang. That, I like!
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> On 3/1/2009 2:55 PM PT, Schrodinger typed:
>
>> "Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message 
>> news:bvCdnbHWu4WEazfUnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's 
>>> subwoofer from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency 
>>> bass very well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass 
>>> problem. I unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod 
>>> and I still heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little 
>>> bass. :( If I turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear 
>>> this loud and annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice 
>>> if I wiggle the power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is 
>>> that normal?
>>>
>>> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find 
>>> a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
>>> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
>>> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs 
>>> for anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is 
>>> fine since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or 
>>> higher setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV 
>>> shows, videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle 
>>> very low frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when 
>>> they didn't have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a 
>>> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see 
>>> and hear the new speaker sets in person before buying one.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>> -- 
>>>
>>
>> I have Creative 7.1 surround speakers, although using in 2.1 mode right 
>> now. Lovely range, never clips on anything until it's distorting anyway. 
>> Can get very very loud without any problems and I now use the setup 
>> instead of a guitar amp too. Probably as loud as a 30w combo amp with 
>> better bass response.
>
> Do they have 2.1/4.1 version? Are those Soundworks models shown on 
> http://us.creative.com/products/welcomenew.asp?category=4 ?
>
>>

None shown there.  I've just spent some time looking it up as I couldn't 
remember which model speakers they are;  it's the Creative Inspire T7900.

http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/other-products/creative-inspire-t7900/

I'm not sure if they will still be available near to you.  The great thing 
about them is the inclusion of 2 speakers in the main surround speakers (i.e 
the main 3.5 inch plus a 1 inch tweeter) in addition to a proper sub woofer. 
I did used to have cheaper 2.1 setup, but these blew me away.  I even posted 
about it on here.

For some reason, I can only find them from Australian eBay sellers or 
Australian shops now (perhaps they are only available in Australia :)  )

Anyhow, looking at the current Creative offerings the sub woofer is smaller 
and there are no tweeters in the other speakers.  Sorry if this isn't much 
use, but perhaps something like eBay or Craigslist might bring something up. 
I remember I bought them specifically becuase the bang for buck seemed much 
higher than anything else available.




>> If I'm playing music through it, you can still hear the bass outside the 
>> house and we have stone walls 2 feet thick.
>
> Dang. That, I like!
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> None shown there.  I've just spent some time looking it up as I couldn't 
> remember which model speakers they are;  it's the Creative Inspire T7900.
> 
> http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/other-products/creative-inspire-t7900/
> 
> I'm not sure if they will still be available near to you.  The great thing 
> about them is the inclusion of 2 speakers in the main surround speakers (i.e 
> the main 3.5 inch plus a 1 inch tweeter) in addition to a proper sub woofer. 
> I did used to have cheaper 2.1 setup, but these blew me away.  I even posted 
> about it on here.

It doesn't look like it is sold anymore. Oh well! Were there any 
equilavent models?

> 
> For some reason, I can only find them from Australian eBay sellers or 
> Australian shops now (perhaps they are only available in Australia :)  )
> 
> Anyhow, looking at the current Creative offerings the sub woofer is smaller 
> and there are no tweeters in the other speakers.  Sorry if this isn't much 
> use, but perhaps something like eBay or Craigslist might bring something up. 
> I remember I bought them specifically becuase the bang for buck seemed much 
> higher than anything else available.

Oh well. I don't shop online with eBay, Craig's List. I do buy from 
local retail stores.

Bose Companion 3 Series 2 sounds interesting. Lots of positive reviews 
and people seem to love it.
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sterile battalion of the ants. It is the excitement of becoming--always 
becoming, trying, probing, falling, resting and trying again--but always 
trying and always gaining. In each generation--with toil and tears--we 
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Ant wrote:

> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find 
> a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
> 

I'm not sure but I think that Klipsch is now making the ProMedia 2.1 
systems again. For a while they didn't have them on their website, but 
now they do. I would never trade my ProMedia 2.1 for anything else. I've 
never heard a set of speakers this small sound so good, and the amount 
of power is amazing. I also love the headphone jack and line in on the 
right side speaker pod. Look on line and see if you find them. I would 
never pay what a place like BB would charge. I've had mine for about 3 
years and so far so good. I don't crank them up much, I usually play 
using earbuds (the family doesn't like hearing all the killing)
Good luck I hope you can find them. JLC

On 3/1/2009 7:18 PM PT, JLC typed:

> Ant wrote:
> 
>> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to 
>> find a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
>> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
>> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
>>
> 
> I'm not sure but I think that Klipsch is now making the ProMedia 2.1 
> systems again. For a while they didn't have them on their website, but 
> now they do. I would never trade my ProMedia 2.1 for anything else. I've 
> never heard a set of speakers this small sound so good, and the amount 
> of power is amazing. I also love the headphone jack and line in on the 
> right side speaker pod. Look on line and see if you find them. I would 
> never pay what a place like BB would charge. I've had mine for about 3 
> years and so far so good. I don't crank them up much, I usually play 
> using earbuds (the family doesn't like hearing all the killing)
> Good luck I hope you can find them. JLC

Hmm, I don't do mail order. That's why. :/ I might be geting one of 
these: Bose Companion 3 Series II 2.1.
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On 3/1/2009 8:25 PM PT, Legion typed:

> Best rated 2.1 speakers by Maximum PC:
> 
> http://maximumpc.com/best-of-the-best?page=1
> 
> http://www.axiomaudio.com/audiobytecomputerspeakers.html
> 
> Best but expensive.

Expensive indeed. Do they have them in local stores so I can see and 
hear? I never heard of these companies.
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I read and see a lot of positive reviews on Bose Companion 3 Series II 
2.1: 
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/speakers/computer_speakers/companion_3/index.jsp 
... Best Buy has it for $225 (a bit pricey but I will buy it if it is 
good/better than my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400 set). Any opinions on 
this speaker set?


On 3/1/2009 2:08 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Oh, and I am looking for local stores (I am in east of Los Angeles, CA, USA) to see and hear the speakers.
> 
> 
> On 3/1/2009 12:54 PM PT, Ant typed:
> 
>> Hello!
>>
>> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's 
>> subwoofer from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency 
>> bass very well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass 
>> problem. I unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod 
>> and I still heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little 
>> bass. :( If I turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear 
>> this loud and annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did 
>> notice if I wiggle the power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes 
>> noises. Is that normal?
>>
>> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to 
>> find a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
>> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
>> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
>>
>> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs 
>> for anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is 
>> fine since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or 
>> higher setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, 
>> TV shows, videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to 
>> handle very low frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers 
>> when they didn't have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC 
>> with a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would 
>> like to see and hear the new speaker sets in person before buying one.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
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ants, trying to figure out which ones were good, and which ones were 
bad, but they all just looked like ants, so I started smiting all of 
them." "Well that's not --" "I was smiting them with the garden hose, 
and with lighter fluid, and with the lawnmower, and to be perfectly 
honest, I think I went a little crazy with the shovel. Those ants could 
have been praying to me all day, I wouldn't have heard them." "There was 
nothing they could do about it." "But, I don't think --" "Really, it's 
the same with us. There's nothing we can do about anything either, so 
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Hmm, it looks like Logitech Z-2300 will be my first choice now:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/231&cl=CA,EN

I hope to decide and get one by this weekend. Other feedbacks are 
welcomed. Having no bass is not fun. :)


On 3/1/2009 12:54 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Hello!
> 
> As of last night, it looks like my old Klipsch ProMedia v2-400's 
> subwoofer from 1999 is getting worse. Now, it can't play low frequency 
> bass very well. I tried a MacBook Pro and it outputted the same bass 
> problem. I unplugged all the speakers except the open with control pod 
> and I still heard the subwoofer rattling badly inside, and very little 
> bass. :( If I turn down/off bass on my soundc ard, then I do not hear 
> this loud and annoying rattling. I checked all the cables. I did notice 
> if I wiggle the power cable behind the subwoofer, it makes noises. Is 
> that normal?
> 
> But then, the speakers is over a decade old. I think it is time to find 
> a new speaker set. I looked at my local retail stores for Klipsch 
> ProMedia 2.1 speakers (realized I don't really need four or more 
> speakers), but no one seems to have them like Best Buy.
> 
> Does anyone know of good non-digital (still want to use regular plugs 
> for anything like TVs, stereo, players, etc.) bassy speakers (2.1 is 
> fine since I can't hear directional and never really needed a 4.1 or 
> higher setup) that will do well with my computers for gaming, movies, TV 
> shows, videos, music, etc.? I like it bassy! It should be able to handle 
> very low frequency without distortions like my Klispch speakers when 
> they didn't have problem. I am also using them mainly on my PC with a 
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS sound card. Also, I would like to see 
> and hear the new speaker sets in person before buying one.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
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