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Re: A question of ethics

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From: Michael CIAVARELLA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:25
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miw@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams) writes:

>kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:

>>[After some discussion of a hypothetical case ...]

>>miw@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams) writes:

>>> The *student* has no
>>>rights in this case, because all resources used belong to the
>>>university.
>>[...]

>>In the U.S., students have contractual rights, Constitutional rights
>>(at state schools), and (harder to defend) academic-freedom rights.

>This hypothetical case didn't happen in the US. It is also very unlikely

Again, there were no mentions of _where_ the (hypothetical) example
took place.  The example was phrased with this specifically in mind
in order to solicit (bad word?) responses from as many viewpoints as
possible.


>to fall under any academic-freedom or contractual rights, because the
>object of dispute was a *game*. Now if the student can prove that he has

aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggh - who said it was a game?
It may have been a productivity tool (eg. a c compiler) or a front-end
to mail(1) or something of the like.  WHAT it was doesn't matter.

Mike
The original poster (yet again)

ps.  No Mark I'm not flaming you it's just that you're one of the 
     few who's _posted_ something with assumptions, rather than 
     e-mailed :-)



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From: mikec@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael CIAVARELLA)
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Subject: Re: A question of ethics
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