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Re: Upgrades to a PII

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From: walter
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:00
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Michael Dwyer <mdwyer@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
: Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.colostate.edu> wrote:
: : What if I went with a nice K6-2 and the familiar Socket 7 interface. 
: : Has anyone tried K6-2?  Are they any good?  Are they supposed to be
: : comprable to a PII or a PIII?

: They are pretty good.  They lack some of the floating-point power that
: the Intel's have, but they are very decent chips.  

I checked out some hardware pages before buying my last processor.  Tom's
Hardware Page is one I remember, but I checked several.  My conclussion
was that the AMD chips lack quite a bit in the FPU, and although a lot
cheaper, weren't worth it too me.  I couldn't afford a PII/PIII at the
time, so went with a Celeron 466 at a price comparable to the AMD chips
and a lot cheaper than the PII/PIIIs.  In most of the benchmarks the
Celerons tracked the PIIs quite well.  The Celeron has only 128KB of
cache where a PII has 512KB.  But the Celeron cache runs at the full
bus? speed where the PII cache runs at half that speed.  So under
cache-intensive loads the PII wins.  Under less-cache-intensive loads the
Celeron wins as it's cache is faster.

Be careful with socket 7 chips though.  Some of the newer ones require a
"Super Socket 7" or something like that.  The socket is the same size, but
has some added functionality, as well as clock speeds and multipliers and
voltages that a lot of old socket 7 boards don't support.  So if you go
AMD be sure that your MB can support it.

: I should note that
: the Intel Celery Processors are being sold in a socket-7-ish package
: again.  I guess it makes them cheaper than the slot package.
: There is some acronym for this, I'm sure, but I don't recall.  

PPGA - stands for SomethingThatStartsWithaP Pin Grid Array.  They also
refer to these as socket 370 chips.  This what I ended up getting.  At the
time I was shopping the reports I read were that Intel was expected to
change the PIII from the Slot 1 architecture to a socket architecture by
Fall 99.  (This is coming up soon, right?).  Anyway, the stuff I read made
it sound like the Slot 1 architecture was one it's way out, and that Intel
was going to the socket 370 and some new socket in the near future,
eventually coming out with 100 MHZ front side bus Celerons (or some other
chip that fit socket 370).  So I went with the socket 370 Celeron and made
sure to get a MB that supported 100 MHZ FSB.  I've yet to see these new
architecture PIIIs, so maybe I bought into some dead-end technology?  I
dunno.  I have a buddy that has a MB with both socket 370 and Slot 1 on
the same board.  Until Intel comes out with it's new package for the PIII
that may be the way to go there.

Good Day,
--bjw
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Subject: Re: Upgrades to a PII
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