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Adam Carheden (carheden@holly.colostate.edu) wrote:
: > It has all the Motif stuff in there for us losers who don't buy it (can't
: 
: Okay, wait.  I'm confused.  I've heard of Motif, but that's about it. 
: Motif is another software package that's not free?  You said the Motif

Yeah. You can go to
http://www.redhat.com/products/product-details.phtml?id=rhm-21 for all the
ditry details, but basically Motif is a set of libraries that you'd use if
you're developing X apps and want standard libs for the
button/menu/clickbox widgets. You need Motif (or LessTif) to compile the
free source Mozilla product, and that's what the "commercial" Linux
versions are compiled with (taadaa): standard Motif.

So, if you don't have Motif, Netscape will barf all over you if you
attempt to link to a library that doesn't exist because you don't have it
installed.

: version was 7 MB.  The version I have was 12 MB in the .gz form, does
: that mean I probably don't have the Motif version.

No, when you unpack the 12 MB, you should notice that there are two
netscape binaries; one called netscape, and one called netscape-dynMotif.
The former is statically linked (i.e. don't need Motif libs) while the
latter isn't.

After further investigating, I'm wrong: libXpm isn't part of Motif.
However, perhaps you're not pre-loading it, as Mike suggested; I'm pretty
sure this is in /etc/ld.so.conf, as mine looks like:

[root@excelsior cs109]# more /etc/ld.so.conf 
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib

...and Netscape works fine for me. ;-) Try adding /usr/X11R6/lib and
running again.

: (This post was mostly to find out what Motif is, so let me try Dwyer's
: and your suggestions before you try to solve my netscape problem any
: more.)
: Thanks.

Oh, I don't mind. Remember, I worked at Netscape in build release
engineering...I shipped the Linux (along with various other *nix) 
4.06/4.5pr1 bits. 

Oh, and speaking of libc5/6 difficulties that Mike was talking about, if
you download the "shipping Linux 2.0" version, you are downloading the
libc5 version for Linux, and those are the libs it will try to use. The
glibc version (libc6) is under the "development Linux 2.0-glibc" tree, and
is essentially for RedHat 5.x. I remember chuckling to myself when we
split the Linux build trees to have "Standard Linux 1.2.x", "Standard
Linux 2.x", and "Redhat Linux 5.x (libc6)" ;-)

Later,
Paul
P.S. Mike: preed is fine...in fact, all my friends call me preed-man...a
testament to my geekiness... ;-)
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