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Article #653Re: Let's start a new thread for my Linux problems
From: eric dahlman
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
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Michael Dwyer <mdwyer@holly.ColoState.EDU> writes: > Adam Carheden <carheden@holly.ColoState.EDU> wrote: > : "Michael A. Lockhart" wrote: > : > I think the PII is basically a PPro core with MMX added. > > : I was told by someone (I forgot who) that the PPro was a special chip > : optimized for Windows NT. Anyone else ever here that? How does it > : differ from the Pentium? How could I use "Intel" and "optimized" in the > : same sentence? The PPRO is optimized for 32 bit stuff while the Pentium is optimized toward 16 bit operations. This is a marketing decision since these things usually are benchmarked in the press on Windows which is basically 16 bit. So, the PPRO is really a Linux processor which just happens to run NT a little better than W9x. The PII is a semi-lobotomized PPRO with MMX added. They made modifications to get better 16 bit performance at the cost of the 32 bit stuff and reduced the speed of the cache which runs processor speed on the PPRO. They also changed the packaging the PPRO had the processor and the cache in the same little bit o' plastic, this was costly since they could not test the silicon until it was sealed in with another chip. Therefore, if either the processor or the cache was defective the whole thing had to be chucked which was expensive. Also PIIs originally had very limited SMP capabilities. The funny thing is that the PPRO is still the fastest chip per MHz Intel has made in the x86 line (I haven't seen numbers on there newest $1200+ PII version). That is also why they never released PPros which were faster than 200's, god forbid people realized that the new chip was slower than the old one. -Eric > > WinModems are optimized for Windows... :P > My understanding is that they have more cache or something like that. > The Intel page claims that they have Dynamic Execution features over the > standard P5. (Incidently, they do call the PPro "P6", which would make the > Pentium II a P7 or 786, if you follow their numbering...<shrug>) > > The PII has the Dynamic Execution, and add 100Mhz bus and Dual Independant > Bus archetecture. > > Or at least that's what the pages say. Personally, I still believe is > is all done by magic smoke. > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Michael J. Dwyer I doubt, therefore I might be. > mdwyer@holly.ColoState.edu http://WWW.CS.ColoState.EDU/~dwyer/ > Computer Science Major Amateur Radio Tech N0ZAP
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1159f7,9ee6e7cb3344f949 X-Google-Attributes: gid1159f7,public From: eric dahlman <dahlman@cs.colostate.edu> Subject: Re: Let's start a new thread for my Linux problems Date: 1998/10/29 Message-ID: <tz4ogqvb69p.fsf@bbking.cs.colostate.edu> X-Deja-AN: 406380725 Sender: dahlman@bbking.cs.colostate.edu References: <36322F4A.43FDA8B2@holly.ColoState.EDU> <710mf7$b1u4@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <712b91$b976@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <3634BD7E.3B95991B@holly.ColoState.EDU> <7138ed$bbem@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <36358FE9.C40F1845@holly.ColoState.EDU> <715cdf$9qc0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <36365C97.5E1BC2B9@redwood.ml.org> <3636423C.7B64DD8F@holly.ColoState.EDU> <717orl$c6g6@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <36377944.9BB93AC2@redwood.ml.org> <36373608.5D19CB60@holly.ColoState.EDU> <718abo$d0i0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Newsgroups: csu.unix.linux