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Article #1653Re: Letter from Russia
From: Dave Hughes
Date: Fri, 01 May 1992 14:40
Date: Fri, 01 May 1992 14:40
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Ok McIver, get off my back. What are *you* doing, directly, to help *anyone* inside Russia? When the dollar to ruble ratio is over 1 to 100, Moscow has lots of scientists, engineers, programmers who are desperately trying to make a living, we have projects there is no way we can pay Boulder programmers what they expect - especially in competition with US Government contracts and fat NSF and DOE grants - then you gotta come up with a hell of a lot more solid reasons why we should (1)just ignore the problem like you are or (2)offer far more than a reasonable market-rate for programmers there than your flip remarks. A laser scientist we are in touch with, via telecom, is being paid 1,200 rubles a month, which is totally insufficient to live on, so he and his scientist wife are translating Rambo II, fer gawds sake, to make ends meet. And they fear they will have to leave Russia if they don't make it through this crises. They are so idealistic that they formed a non-profit organization to help link Russian school-kids to the rest of the world via telecom. A friend of mine just delivered an old 3B2 to them, whose disk crashed in transit, to them. So we followed up with an offer to (1)hire one or tw C programmers via telecom through them to help develop s set of NAPLPS programs which can handle math/science symbols by telecom, as well as foreign languages such as cyrillic (2)pay the scientist for his project coordination role (3)pay his wife to do documentation - in Russian (4) a 'piece of the action' - or precentage of sales if we make any and the product is any good (5)and pay them in hard currency (where even *getting* dollars to that country is difficult and frought with risk, because 'individuals' there cannot even have bank accounts. Of course we could also just send some money to some starry eyed Boulder charity which is there to 'help' the poor Russians. And continue to view them as a welfare basket case. But we decided to take a big risk and do something far more fundemental, like engage in an honest business deal with them, only made thinkable by this fragile telecom link to Moscow, and maybe help them help us build a small software business with them. Since you can be so instantly-judgemental without either knowing the facts, I can play that game too. Which I will, after seeing that you are from that tax-supported economic coccon the University of Colorado, whose supervisory salaries are so obscenly high - paid for by me a taxpayer - and begging for more from eithr (1)the Legislature, whihc means me or (2)from students, that I am convinced UC lives in a fantasy world where its real policy toward other countries must be 'Let em eat cake.'
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,11b9a312b22abd1e X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,public X-Google-Thread: fe6a3,11b9a312b22abd1e X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6a3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-05-01 07:40:12 PST Newsgroups: cu.general,co.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!seas.smu.edu!convex!csn!teal.csn.org!daveh From: daveh@teal.csn.org (Dave Hughes) Subject: Re: Letter from Russia Message-ID: <1992May1.144012.9969@csn.org> Sender: news@csn.org (news) Nntp-Posting-Host: teal.csn.org Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. References: <1992Apr30.151740.2512@colorado.edu> <1992Apr30.194812.21148@csn.org> <1992May1.020014.26690@colorado.edu> Distribution: cu Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 14:40:12 GMT Lines: 55