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Article #103Re: The Case for Gay Marriage - The Nation
From: R. Carruth
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 00:00
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Apuleius wrote:
>
> Jeff Gronberg <gronberg@lns534.lns.cornell.edu> wrote to and
> alt.politics.homosexuality:
>
> == Jeff Gauvin wrote:
> == > To be honest, I didn't really intend to get dragged into this discussion. I
> == > don't know enough about either side to debate coherently. The "HATE" keyword
> == > just sort of pushed my button.
> == >
> == > Out of curiosity, why isn't religion a valid motivation?
> == >
>
> == Because the constitution guarantees us freedom from your religion.
Wrong! The 1st Amendment says...
...Congress shall make no law establishing religion or preventing the free exercise
thereof...
Notice the keywords here "preventing the free exercise thereof"
>
> Religion isn't a valid motivation because it can be demonstrated that
> these people aren't consistent in their application of their religious
> principles. They claim the bible says homosexuality is wrong, which is
> open to dispute. On the other hand, the position on divorce and
> remarriage is very, very clear in the bible, yet these people ignore
> it.
Yes, all of humanity are hypocrites...that is our nature. I sympathize with your plea but, if
hypocrisy invalidates a motivation then, I don't think there is a single person with a valid
motivation!
As far as the divorce/remarriage argument, I think you will find most "religious" people are not
happy with the divorce rate. The Bible states the *only* valid reason for divorce is infidelity.
>
> They ignore the bible on things concerning heterosexual sex, but try
> to enforce what they claim the bible says on homosexual sex.
> This obvious raises the question that they're inconsistent in their
> alleged biblical motivation. Why enforce it for homosexuals but ignore
> it for heterosexuals? Sounds like they're disguising some ulterior
> motive, such as hatred.
He we go again...they don't agree with me so they must hate me! Would you be offended if I
categorically stated that *all* homosexuals HATE *all* people of faith? I thought you would.
--
The Humanist whom no beliefs constrained
Grew so broad-minded he was scatter-brained.
J. V. Cunningham
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