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Mike Mills wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Jeff Gauvin wrote:
> 
> > I can't claim to know their motivation, and neither can you! Has anybody asked
> > them? Would you believe their answer? I can guarantee you that the mainstream
> > groups (CFV, FoF) won't say, "Oh, it's simple! We hate you!"
> >
> > To be honest, I didn't really intend to get dragged into this discussion. I
> > don't know enough about either side to debate coherently.
> 
> As one who has dealt with this issue intently for many years, I can assure
> you the motivation of anti-gay groups is hatred, pure and simple.  Many
> have tried to reason with them, to "work something out," as you put it.
> None have succeeded.  Don't take my work for it, hear it from the horses'
> mouths:
> 
> "There can be no peaceful coexistence with homosexuals."
>         -Kevin Tebedo, Director of Colorado for Family Values
> 
> "It should be made clear that in order to live a Christian life,
>  any Christian must be able to discriminate and hate, because
>  that's what the bible says."
>          -- Bernhard Kuiper, Colorado Springs pastor
>             to Will Perkins
> 
> "A visceral recoil from homosexuality is the natural reaction
> of a healthy society wishing to preserve itself."
>               - Pat Buchanan, March 27, 1991, N.Y. POST
> 
> "Where are you homosexuals going to go when we win?"
>     -- Kevin Tebedo, Executive Director of Colorado for Family Values,
>        to Rev. Mel White as he fasted in front of Focus on the Family,
>        July 1994.
> 
> "We're talking about a battle of ideas...we sometimes refer to
> it as a third world war between those who defend and respect family
> and traditional values and those who reject them.  We do not
> believe those two can coexist, and those who win will control the
> hearts and minds of our children." ---Paul Hetrick of Focus on the
> Family in the National Catholic Reporter, December 25, 1992
> 
> "What you are about to hear is God's word to the men of this nation.
> We are going to war as of tonight.  We have divine power -- that is
> our weapon.  We will not compromise.  Wherever truth is at risk,
> in the schools or legislature, we are going to contend for it.  We
> will win."  -- CU Football Coach Bill McCartney, CFV Board Member
> 
> "We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war.  There's a
> lot of talk in America about pluralism.  But the bottom line is
> somebody's values will prevail.  And the winner gets the right to
> teach our children what to believe."
>             -- Gary Bauer of the Family Research Council
> 
> "The game of politics is simply who has the biggest bat and who
>  swings the fastest"
>         -Kevin Tebedo, Director of Colorado for Family Values,
>          speaking to a group of high school students, June 12, 1993
> 
> "In the end all your knees will bow to Jesus Christ whether you
>  want to or not."
>         -Kevin Tebedo, Director of Colorado for Family Values
>          to an audience composed of various religions
>         (Citizens Project Newsletter, August 1993)
> 
>   From demagogue Randal Terry, head of the reactionary Operation
>   Rescue, on his group's agenda, "I want you to just let a wave
>   of intolerance wash over you...I want you to let a wave of
>   hatred wash over you.  Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a
>   Christian nation.  We have a biblical duty, we are called by
>   God, to conquer this country.  We don't want equal time.  We
>   don't want pluralism."  (The News-Sentinal, Fort Wayne Ind.,
>   August 16, 1993)
> 
> "Intolerance is a beautiful thing...There are people that are
> politically correct that want to say the cardinal sin of the hour
> is intolerance and I think that is a bunch of junk."
>                                  --Randal Terry, Operation Rescue
> 
> You say, 'You're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the
> Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that and the other
> thing'---nonsense! I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the
> anti-Christ!  I can love the people who hold false opinions, but I
> don't have to be nice to them."
>                          -- Rev. Pat Robertson, Christian Coalition
> 
> "What Harvard needs was less sensitivity and more racial jokes."
> "It's gotten to the point where a professor hardly dares tell
>  a joke in his class. You have to fear now it will be offensive."
>                 -Prof Harvey Mansfield, Harvard University
>                  testifying for the State at the Amendment 2 trial
> =-=-=
> Interchange at the Amendment 2 trial:
> 
> "Do you believe that Colorado would be better off it its citizens
>  were free to discriminate against gays, lesbians, and bisexuals?"
>  plaintiff's attorney Greg Eurich asked.
> 
> "Yes," Prof. Robert George of Princeton University replied, adding
>  that in this case he applied the word "discriminate" in the
>  broader sense, not the "pejorative" sense.
> =-=-=
>   "We must never appear to be attempting to rob anyone of their
>   rights -- their constitutional rights.  To the extent we can
>   control our public image, we must never appear to be bigoted
>   or mean-spirited."
>                    -John Eldredge, Focus on the Family
> 
> I see a divine hand in this AIDS thing.
>          -- Dr. John Willke, "Planned Parenthood and Sex Clinics"
>             Fundraising Audiotape Mailout for Dr. James C Dobson's
>             "Focus on the Family" Late winter 1987
> 
> "I listen to the feminists and all these radical gals -- most of them
> are failures.... They married some Caspar Milquetoast who asked
> permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the
> house. That's all they need... a man to tell them what time of day it
> is and to lead the home."
>                                - Rev. Jerry Falwell, 1985
> 
> Feminism "...encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their
> children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
>                                                 -- Pat Robertson.
> 
> ...once contraception is accepted and the purposes of sex are
> separated from procreation and marriage, sterilization and abortion
> become acceptable, and then infanticide, the precursor of outright
> euthanasia.  Furthermore, homosexuality and unnatural sexual
> activities become "natural and normal," the venereal diseases get out
> of control, divorce and illegitimacy rates mount, and the family
> swiftly disintegrates.
>          -- Valerie Riches, Anti Family-Planning Educator, In her
>             brochure, CONTRACEPTION'S LEGACY
> 
> For those who say I can't impose my morality on others, I say just
> watch me.
>          -- Joseph Scheidler, Executive Director, Pro-Life Action
>             League, PRO-LIFE ACTION NEWS, August 8, 1989
> 
> Convinced yet?

I agree with the essence of each of these comments.  Of course, these 
are all taken out of context.


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>     mike                 (. .)
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> Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life.
>                 -- Eric Hoffer

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