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David Ensign wrote:
> 
> In article <32362828.4338@ix.netcom.com>, Matt Steele <toc@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > Mike,
> >
> > Explain to me why I should have to take into consideration your sex life when hiring for a position in an
> > engineering firm?
> 
> ENDA would enforce that you *may not* take into consideration someone's
> sexual orientation in hiring or firing.  Maybe you should read the legislation
> before commenting.  It also exempts religious organizations and prohibits any
> sexual-orientation-based quotas.

Excuse me, but are we discussing non-discrimination of gays and lesbians in the work place? 
Sorry, I thought we were. I would suggest that having to hire an outwardly gay person, in contrast 
with the position requirements probably, is taking into consideration the person's sexual orientation.
You disagree. Go figure.


> Where in Mike's post did you find a request for any entitlement?  You're
> making this up.  ENDA does not legislate any entitlements whatsoever.

The legislation is designed to provide leverage to gays and lesbians in the work force 
structure of a corporation. That is entitlement. "To give a legal right to". In this case it is 
designed to give a legal right to a position in a corporation that may have differing corporate 
objectives for the position.

> > As an employer, I should not have to hire anyone for any reason other than that person can do
> > the job. Period. And as an employer, I would certainly hire the best person for the position. Period.
> > It is in my best interest to hire *that* person, for obvious reasons.
> 
> As an employer you should be much better informed of the laws that might
> affect employers.  If you want to talk about quotas or EEO policies, you're
> targeting the wrong piece of legislation.

Sorry, you have not responded coherently to my statement, > >, above.   

> Out of respect for decency I'll cut out the rest of your rant.  It's
> reprehensible that you feel you can label people with the ugly language
> you used in your little dialog.  You are certainly not cut out to be
> put in a position to employ anyone.

How dare you judge me with your morallity 8-)
Is that not what we always hear? What exactly did you find offensive? The words "foot fetish"?
"hermaphrodite"? "cock-sucker"? Are you attributing one or more terms to a particular sexual 
orientation? Gays perhaps? Someone else? Because I was not. Interesting....

Does US West know that you are on the internet representing them in such matters?
Again, interesting...

Matt


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