🚀 go-pugleaf

>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:47:58 +0200
>To: Mike McDonald <mikemac@mikemac.com>, reti@wilson.ai.mit.edu
>From: Rainer Joswig <joswig@lavielle.com>
>Subject: Re: Keyboard weirdness. Anyone familiar with this behavior?
>
>At 11:43 Uhr -0700 03.06.1999, Mike McDonald wrote:
>
>>  These are just my personal opinions. The firm I work for knows
>>nothing about Lisp. (When I told them about CLOS, they were shocked.
>>They didn't know lisp even had arrays! I have a LONG task ahead to
>>educate these folks. Now, showing them a real lispm environment might
>>get their attention.) They also got rid of all of the Macs in the
>>company about 18 months ago. 
>
>Does not sound like a place I'd like to be. ;-)

  There are other compensations for working here. :-)

>>the concerns is always cost. Given that there already is MCL for the
>>Macs at less than a grand, I'd think Genera priced in the multiple
>>thousands range would have very few buyers.
>
>Well, MCL already is a pretty good competition. MCL on my PowerBook
>is roughly ten times faster than a MacIvory 3 (which is not that much).

  That was my point in a round about way.

>>would imagine that if you did a highly tuned emulator, that you'd end
>>up charging in the same range as the Alpha version.
>
>Personally I'd be more interested in a Symbolics emulator (Open Genera)
>running under Solaris 7 on SPARC. But that's me.
>Alpha is not very common in my world. We mostly
>use Solaris and the SPARC hardware is quite good.

  We use Sparcs and HPs priarily here at work. Plus NT junk but I
don't count them.

>Hmm, well - a portable Lispm would be something new.

  That's why I suggested x86 Linux. I have a PC laptop running RH5! :-)
But heck, even a Sparc version wouldbe nice. And with 2.7 supposedly
supporting 64bit apps, maybe the emulator wouldn't be too slow either.
HPUX 11 also supports 64bit apps so it'd be nice too.

  Mike McDonald
  mikemac@mikemac.com