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Re: Lispm and Docex

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From: Coquereaux
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:00
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>At 8:50 PM +0000 98/4/20, Luca Pisati wrote:
>>I remember the Mac Docex application, that would allow you to have Docex
>>access
>>from a Mac, but I don't remember if it needed to run on a MacIvory, though.
>>If not, maybe that should be the perfect "app".
>
>Well remembered.  I have never seen the sources to this.
>

There was a Macintosh Application called " MacintoshDocumentExaminer" also
known as DEX.
The documents read by this application had to be written with the Producer
System.
One first had to restore the Lisp Machine Files for Producer
and then load the Producer System into Genera
(but Concordia has to be also loaded before performing this step).

One was first writing a document set by using Concordia (or use an already
existing set)
It was then translated to a document  (and an associated set of files of
type DocumentExaminer@)
by the Producer System.

These last files could finally be read by the Macintosh Application
"Document Examiner" on
ANY kind of macintosh (without requiring the presence of an Ivory
processor, of course... since this was clearly the interest of this
application).
Actually I just checked that this DEX application  still works fine with an
FX running system 7.5.3 and also with a Macintosh Powerbook running sytem
8.0. I can read all the provided examples without any trouble.

I have a copy of Macintosh Document Examiner version 3.0 and a few examples.
I have also the Producer Lisp System (version  2.0,  also called 437... )
Sorry, only bin files.
There is however something wrong:  I just check the Producer System on a
Mac Ivory and tried to convert a few SAB files.  Everything seems OK,
but... it produces Macintosh files that have a version number older than
those required by the Macintosh DEX application.  In other words, the two
necessary programs that are supposed to work one after another, the
Producer (on the Ivory) and  the Mac Document Examiner (on the Mac) should
have, somehow, compatible versions numbers. My Producer systems seems a bit
old. Maybe this can be fixed by using ResEdit... but I did not manage.

The size of the whole thing is about 1 Mega (the size of the Document
Examiner Mac Application  is only 147 K). Of course it can be easily
compressed.
If anybody wants to play with this,  I can certainly send it by e-mail or
otherwise.
I believe that many people on slug@ai.sri.com have already a working copy
of this mac application, but it seems that the Producer System was not so
well known  and seems hard to find...
Several years ago, I tried to get a more recent version, without any success.

The last  exchange of  messages on the Slug list did not mention this
Producer System...
Well, it exists. Maybe this can be of interest for those who want to
"Produce" an html converter
Bye
Robert Coquereaux

Robert Coquereaux
Groupe "Interactions Fondamentales"
Centre de Physique Theorique
Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique
Case 907 - Campus de Luminy
13288 MARSEILLE Cedex 9 FRANCE

Tel (33) 4 91 26 95 18
Fax (33) 4 91 26 95 53

email: coque@cpt.univ-mrs.fr
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