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Article #81Re: SYMBOLICS LISP MACHINE
From: Rainer Joswig
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:00
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At 12:27 Uhr -0700 01.07.1999, Mike McDonald wrote: >traditional way of coming up with a business plan, find some investors >with capital, ... That's to be supportive of volunteers in helping you >improve and maintain the system. Maybe if Symbolics allowed and >encouraged their fans to help, maybe some of them would. Symbolics' >attitude has always seemed to be "It's my ball and none of the rest of >you can play with it." That's perfectly within your rights but it >doesn't build much of a support base. One could imagine a lot of stuff. I guess nowadays a lot of systems are on the Internet. I'm still using my Symbolics and I'm still writing code for it and with it. And there are some good ideas for projects. I don't know how many others are still active users - my MacIvory is just to the right and has stuff like CL-HTTP loaded - although there are a few things it doesn't have (speed, character sets, colored UI, a web browser, ...). If there were still enough hackers around (or even coming back), one could imagine more community infrastructure. Basically I'm frustrated with the web (how it works, how it looks and how it's being used) right now - and the Lispm community (IMHO) has a good chance to come back with something useful. As a start for a community: - a SLUG "site" (in the Lispm sense) - a code repository for SLUG members, ready to be mounted via NFILE - mail and web stuff on a central Lisp machine - joint development via the Lispm mechanisms over the net - a shared statice database (possible?) - online docs - a home for ALU (get rid of the Linux/ACL-idea - it has not happened in years) - get the initiative back to the users - people would be able to provide space and IP connectivity - official "okay" from Symbolics But I think there are not enough active users around. Rainer Joswig, "Lavielle" EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. KG, Lotharstrasse 2b, D22041 Hamburg, Tel: +49 40 658088, Fax: +49 40 65808-202, Email: joswig@lavielle.com , WWW: http://www.lavielle.de/
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