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Article #150Re: Cleveland Freenet shut down 4 years ago Tuesday
From: Paul Schneider
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:13
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:13
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"Bob Hetzel" <beh@blackout.DMS.cwru.edu> wrote in message news:blho10$m7n$1@blackout.DMS.cwru.edu... > How many other text based BBS's are heavily used > these days? I'd suspect the number is orders of magnitude smaller now than > it was in 1995... Unfortunately few. However, I think the mere fact that these newsgroups get the traffic they do speaks testaments to how much some people appreciate the medium I can't stand ritz and glitz, which is one of the reasons I am of the opinion that the main campus webpage is simply crap. Form over substance. I have lamented many times the loss of CFN, and still miss it to this day. If it were come back tomorrow, no I do not think it would have the "glamour" it did when I started using it back in 1992 (I was a dial-up user at the time). Yes I am still nostalgic for the good ol' days that I know can never be repeated. However, at the same time I have seen nothing to fill the vacuum when CFN went away. Scratch that. I do. It's called IRC. Yeah... I hear the boos and hisses. But a lot of what I *did* miss is now in the irc network here on campus: irc.cwru.edu irc2.cwru.edu and it's off-campus brethren (sponsored by an unnamed geek co-op *cough*) irc.froggynet.com There *is* a community there and while it's not the same by any stretch of the imagination I have had students, staff and alumni tell me time and time again, "Thanks, Froggy, I reallly like irc" or "I was able to connect with a lot of my old dorm mates", etc. etc. So, I'm not sure what my point in this reply is other than this: CFN went away, I got pissed. I missed my community. *MY* community... without one I lose my identity. So, once i had the means and the authority, I created it myself out of my own resources. Why? Because it fills a need for me and, apparantly, a need in the campus community as a whole. At times there are 50 people on the server in 10 channels, at others there are only 20 or 30 people The point is, they are there and they're talking! A far cry from when I first opened it up and it was the same 2 or 3 people talking on one channel. People *need* community... something easily accessible. Freenet was. IRC is. It's ubiquitous. No web page, web community or what-have-you is going to fill that void. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but dammit it works. And no I'm not yelling at you Bob, on the contrary, I highly respect you for all of the work you are doing and have done in the past. Simply consider this a directionless flame bemoaning The Way We Wuz and looking forward to demonstrating that if it ain't there, you gotta do it yourself. - Froggy
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e58c,2011af8a085bb4cf X-Google-Attributes: gid10e58c,public X-Google-Thread: 101fa9,2011af8a085bb4cf X-Google-Attributes: gid101fa9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-02 11:13:12 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!216.170.153.135.MISMATCH!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!enews.sgi.com!usenet.INS.cwru.edu!not-for-mail From: "Paul Schneider" <froggy@eecs.cwru.edu> Newsgroups: cwru.general,cwru.net.general Subject: Re: Cleveland Freenet shut down 4 years ago Tuesday Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:13:10 -0400 Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH, USA Lines: 83 Message-ID: <blhprm$p5b$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu> References: <blh44h$fd6$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu> <blhc86$lgl$1@blackout.DMS.cwru.edu> <blhldf$glp$3@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu> <blho10$m7n$1@blackout.DMS.cwru.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kogepan.eecs.cwru.edu X-Trace: eeyore.INS.cwru.edu 1065118390 25771 129.22.151.225 (2 Oct 2003 18:13:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@po.cwru.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Oct 2003 18:13:10 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165