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Dan Alt <dan@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> wrote:
: in my short time here at CWRU that their efforts don't actually matter
: in any meaningful way.

Yet there is no evidence to support this.  Your statement is covers too
much.  If I can come up with one example (which I have, and I've got more)
then it proves that it's just not true that it never matters.  Unless
you want to argue incessantly about the meaning of "meaningful."  But
if you refuse to define "meaningful" then you can just keep changing the
definition so you are always right.  Which would make you one of those
walls. :)  What's more important here Dan: you being right or putting
the record straight?

: 	But if it IS a wall, then running at it headfirst or giving up
: both have the same end result vis a vis getting you to the other side.

Not true since value can be derived from the experience itself.  If
one never interacts with the wall then you can't possibly ever learn
anything about it that might be used to defeat it.  Which may sound crazy
coming from an experimentalist that studies things remotely but if I
had the option I'd like a star in my lab to study.  Back on subject,
there is also value to be got from assaulting the wall in that you assume
the wall has no feelings, however that wall is people and people have
feelings.  And last there is the value added to others that observe you
assaulting the wall (even if it is only entertainment).  

-John