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3 total messages Started by Maelstrom Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:52
Using CWRU email for politcal spam
#188
Author: Maelstrom
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:52
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Anyone else get this in their inbox?

Anyone else kinda pissed about this coming from the University mailing 
list? I'm not one for political preachings. Never-the-less my spam 
filter marked it junk.

Mael.

TO:  Case Faculty and Staff

      On Tuesday, November 4, Ohioans will have an opportunity to help 
create thousands of new high-paying jobs without raising taxes, by 
voting "Yes" on Issue 1.

      Issue 1 is the only statewide issue on the ballot. It will allow 
the state to issue $500 million of bonds to help create new high-paying 
jobs and bring state-of-the-art products to market. Issue 1 does not 
raise taxes now or in the future, as repayment of the bonds has already 
been factored into the state's long-range financial plans.

      Issue 1 is the final part of Governor Taft's Ohio 3rd Frontier 
Project that will generate $6 billion in new investment for Ohio's 
economy. According to an independent study, Issue 1 will help create 
more than 30,000 jobs in Ohio.

      Issue 1 is endorsed by the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and has 
received tremendous support from business and labor, Republicans and 
Democrats, and education leaders throughout Ohio. Almost every major 
newspaper in the state has endorsed Issue 1.

      Issue 1 will provide financial assistance to support "science and 
technology based research and development purposes," including 
biomedical and other research, new product development and 
commercialization, and support for public and private institutions of 
higher education, among others.  Passage of State Issue #1 would help 
support Case's current and future efforts in these areas.

      We are strongly supporting Issue 1 because it will stimulate much 
needed economic growth in our state. It will lead to a more dynamic 
economy and help improve the quality of life for all Ohioans. We urge 
you to vote "Yes" on this important jobs creation issue.

      You can find more information about Issue 1 at 
http://www.ohiobusinessvotes.org and then click on "Election Issues." 
You do have to register to access the site, but there is no cost to do 
so and your information will not be distributed to any other entities.

      Please remember to vote "Yes" on Issue 1 on November 4.

President Edward M. Hundert, M.D.
Re: Using CWRU email for politcal spam
#190
Author: Barry
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:14
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"Maelstrom" <Maelstrom@cwru.edu> wrote in message
news:bo615b$kjf$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu...
> Anyone else get this in their inbox?
>
> Anyone else kinda pissed about this coming from the University mailing
> list? I'm not one for political preachings. Never-the-less my spam
> filter marked it junk.

I didn't receive it, though I'm neither faculty nor staff.  Anyway, I have
three problems with it:

1.  It seems to me inappropriate for resources available solely to certain
internal elements of the University to be used for political stumping of any
sort.
2.  Endorsement of particular political views by the University is contrary
to the open forum of debate required for any academic institution (not to
mention that endorsement by the University seems to indicate that all
members of the University community are in agreement, which I can guarantee
you they are not).
3.  This e-mail reads like a television ad.  I mean, come on, we're all
smart people here.  We can make an objective assessment of Issue 1's merits
without having it beaten into our brains with nearly every single paragraph
starting with the phrase "Issue 1".

Barry
Re: Using CWRU email for politcal spam
#191
Author: Paul Schneider
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:50
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry" <kraken@cwr.nospamfrom.u.edu>
Newsgroups: cwru.general,cwru.net.general
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Using CWRU email for politcal spam


>
> "Maelstrom" <Maelstrom@cwru.edu> wrote in message
> news:bo615b$kjf$1@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu...
> > Anyone else get this in their inbox?
> >
> > Anyone else kinda pissed about this coming from the University mailing
> > list? I'm not one for political preachings. Never-the-less my spam
> > filter marked it junk.
>
> I didn't receive it, though I'm neither faculty nor staff.  Anyway, I have
> three problems with it:
>
> 1.  It seems to me inappropriate for resources available solely to certain
> internal elements of the University to be used for political stumping of
any
> sort.

People do it all of the time, though, right or wrong.  Since this is a
private
institution, they, and companies alike, can ask their employees to consider
voting a certain way on a certain topic.  I agree it may be gauche, but it's
still a perogative.

> 2.  Endorsement of particular political views by the University is
contrary
> to the open forum of debate required for any academic institution (not to
> mention that endorsement by the University seems to indicate that all
> members of the University community are in agreement, which I can
guarantee
> you they are not).

This is a better argument!

> 3.  This e-mail reads like a television ad.  I mean, come on, we're all
> smart people here.  We can make an objective assessment of Issue 1's
merits
> without having it beaten into our brains with nearly every single
paragraph
> starting with the phrase "Issue 1".

Another great argument.  The average IQ and schooling of people that spend
a great portion of their lives here is quite high.  No need to insult us!

- Paul
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