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Article #349Re: Police RoadBlocks/Checkpoints
From: Mr Ed
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:20
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:20
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Paul Morgan wrote: > On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:28:10 -0400, Mr Ed <Ed@w3source.net> wrote: > > > > > > >Manuel Noriega wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:46:27 -0400, Mr Ed <Ed@w3source.net> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >Paul Morgan wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:06:12 -0400, Mr Ed <Ed@w3source.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Popeye wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Keep in mind, driving is a privilege, not a right. If you want to avoid the > >> >> >> roadblocks, walk. > >> >> > > >> >> >That is socialistic clap-trap. In the absence of any viable public transportion > >> >> >province wide, and when it is *your* tax dollars that build and maintain those > >> >> >highways, it IS a right, however like all rights, it comes with > >> >> >responsibilities. Those responsibilities however, do not mean that your civil > >> >> >liberties should be surrendered to an authoritarian government, be it federal, > >> >> >provincial or local. > >> >> > >> >> If it is your right to drive on the roads, do it without a license, > >> >> registration and insurance. > >> >> Your arguement is stupid. > >> > > >> >Not at all. My argument is based upon the fact that if a government is going to > >> >collect taxpayer dollars for the purpose of building highways, building the > >> >infrastructure of licensing, driver permits, and the required insurance that must be > >> >obtained, that it becomes a RIGHT by virtue of the fact that each taxpayer has the > >> >right to avail themselves of the services and products that their tax dollars are > >> >allocated for. I am not advocating the lawless operation of motor vehicles, your > >> >counter argument is a straw man and I think that should be readily apparent to most > >> >people. > >> > >> The fact that you draw a logical conclusion from the payment of taxes, > >> does not mean the government draws that same conclusion. The fallicy > >> in your argument is the "it becomes a right" statement. Just because > >> maybe it SHOULD become a right, does not mean it actually does become > >> a right. 1) the law is an ass, 2) the government is a big huge ass. > >> -------------------------------- > > > >Point taken. I recall a saying to the effect "any government that is big enough to give > >you everything, is big enough to take everything away". > > > >When the government no longer serves the common interest of the people, it is the right > >of the people to change their government. > > > > I'm curious. By what means do you think we have the right to change > government? Preferably by legal means. Mr. Ed "The FAMOUS Mr. Ed"
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7b9c,5dc2844d329f1549 X-Google-Attributes: gidf7b9c,public X-Google-Thread: 105b91,5dc2844d329f1549 X-Google-Attributes: gid105b91,public X-Google-Thread: fbdd9,5dc2844d329f1549 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbdd9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-16 13:21:18 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!news.uunet.ca!nnrp1.uunet.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3DFE43B9.EF988F98@w3source.net> From: Mr Ed <Ed@w3source.net> Organization: Wylbur's Barn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: dal.general,hfx.general,ns.general Subject: Re: Police RoadBlocks/Checkpoints References: <_JJK9.226388$C8.631533@nnrp1.uunet.ca> <Y3ZK9.5947$cN6.231329@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <3DFC9A64.3E631690@w3source.net> <fo3qvug5ltuahpjq2foapob4sett457se5@4ax.com> <3DFD1453.97796E77@w3source.net> <8ocqvu8asdkad834sd28fda8u78spog8kq@4ax.com> <3DFD3A3A.58BC80CA@w3source.net> <3s1svucpnhv2ttoeqmig4lghcdl2d1k0ki@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 68 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:20:57 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.154.2.110 X-Trace: nnrp1.uunet.ca 1040073651 142.154.2.110 (Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:20:51 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:20:51 EST