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6 total messages Started by zeptepe Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:31
Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
#212
Author: zeptepe
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:31
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I got this article from ALLNovaScotia.com business newsletter.  I knew the
port workers made a lot of money but i was shocked at how much they actually
did make.  Imagine making over a 100 grand for driving a container forklift.
And then they have the gall to ask for a "birthday bonus".  Now i'm not
putting them down or anything,...as i'm sure they work hard for their money,
but when i hear things like "birthday bonus", all i  hear is; "We are greedy
people".  And it also looks like they're damn good negotiators too since
they were able to get themselves a overtime time deal that i think the
Senate and MPs in Ottawa would be envious of.  Imagine, making up to 12
times your hourly rate.  12 times $25 is $300 per hour.  Wow.  Interesting
article though.


Shipping lines are struggling in the wake of 9-11, container volumes through
Halifax are
down and a major Halterm customer has said it might funnel its traffic
through New York.  Such is the atmosphere as 450 unionized employees on the
Halifax waterfront seek a new collective agreement through ILA locals 269
(stevedores), 1341 (checkers), and 1825 (gearmen).   Gerry Murphy, president
of 269, and his cohorts are keeping a tight lid on talks, having refused on
several occasions to discuss the outstanding issues with Allnovascotia.com.

The unions are seeking an immediate increase of 3.5%, but it is not known
what they
want over the whole length of the next ontract. The last one was for three
years, expiring December 31.  A union bid for a birthday bonus has been
given thumbs down by the Halifax Employers  Association.
The locals had proposed the bonus would be equivalent to the basic port
worker's pay rate  of $25.23 per hour (net of other benefits) for eight
hours: $201.84.
But whether it would go to all workers, or just those working on their
birthdays, isn't clear. Up to 12x overtime Rob Fisher, the executive
director of the HEA
declined to address the birthday issue nor any other details of offers on
the table.
A "fair percentage" of port workers earn in excess of $100,000, confirms
Fisher. But he
said a report one worker took home nearly $200,000 last year is
"inaccurate".
Employees can be paid up to 12 times the basic rate, but Fisher says
overtime rates
usually range from four to six times the basic rate.
Re: Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
#213
Author: l
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:02
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"zeptepe" <zeptepe@neap.net> wrote in message > >Employees can be paid up to
12 times the basic rate, >but Fisher says
> overtime rates
> usually range from four to six times the basic rate.

oh, well that makes it better.  glad to know they arent gouging the port
authority or anything.

L@gis.tix

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Re: Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
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Author: Doobielicious
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:12
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That's unions for you.


<l@gis.tix> wrote in message
news:k4XS9.101610$na.2977529@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
>
> "zeptepe" <zeptepe@neap.net> wrote in message > >Employees can be paid up
to
> 12 times the basic rate, >but Fisher says
> > overtime rates
> > usually range from four to six times the basic rate.
>
> oh, well that makes it better.  glad to know they arent gouging the port
> authority or anything.
>
> L@gis.tix
>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
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Author: Bob
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 00:11
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As Lee Iaccoca (sp), ex-president of Chrysler said "I don't mind unions asking
for a lot - the problem is when management gives it to them, often to avoid a
strike."
The contracts on the waterfronts or elsewhere were signed by two parties -
employees and employers.
It's like screaming kids in grocery stores - you can let them scream or you can
pay and pay and pay ...

Bob

Doobielicious a écrit :

> That's unions for you.
>
> <l@gis.tix> wrote in message
> news:k4XS9.101610$na.2977529@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >
> > "zeptepe" <zeptepe@neap.net> wrote in message > >Employees can be paid up
> to 12 times the basic rate, >but Fisher says overtime rates usually range
> from four to six times the basic rate.
> >
> > oh, well that makes it better.  glad to know they arent gouging the port
> > authority or anything.
> >
> > L@gis.tix
Re: Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
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Author: stephanie
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 04:11
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Its great they make that kind of cash, but if you watch the goings on at
Halterm and Ceres you would have heard about the major container lines
pulling out of Halifax, citing costs as the number one concern.  They will
work themselves right out of a job one of these years.
The container traffic and shipping traffic in our port is not the greatest
when you consider the amount of shipping on the east coast.
Its just too spensive to unload your boat here, and, if you are lucky, your
stuff won't get stolen!!


"Bob" <bobrs1000@yahoo.ca-nojunk> wrote in message
news:3E1CBE3D.4951D8EF@yahoo.ca-nojunk...
As Lee Iaccoca (sp), ex-president of Chrysler said "I don't mind unions
asking
for a lot - the problem is when management gives it to them, often to avoid
a
strike."
The contracts on the waterfronts or elsewhere were signed by two parties -
employees and employers.
It's like screaming kids in grocery stores - you can let them scream or you
can
pay and pay and pay ...

Bob

Doobielicious a �crit :

> That's unions for you.
>
> <l@gis.tix> wrote in message
> news:k4XS9.101610$na.2977529@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >
> > "zeptepe" <zeptepe@neap.net> wrote in message > >Employees can be paid
up
> to 12 times the basic rate, >but Fisher says overtime rates usually range
> from four to six times the basic rate.
> >
> > oh, well that makes it better.  glad to know they arent gouging the port
> > authority or anything.
> >
> > L@gis.tix
Re: Halifax Port Workers and their paycheques
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Author: IBM
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:40
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"stephanie" <shuber@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
news:uD6T9.238219$C8.745003@nnrp1.uunet.ca: 

> Its great they make that kind of cash, but if you watch the goings on
> at Halterm and Ceres you would have heard about the major container
> lines pulling out of Halifax, citing costs as the number one concern. 
> They will work themselves right out of a job one of these years.
> The container traffic and shipping traffic in our port is not the
> greatest when you consider the amount of shipping on the east coast.
> Its just too spensive to unload your boat here, and, if you are lucky,
> your stuff won't get stolen!!

    	Anybody remember a couple of decades ago when the same crew 
    	proposed to make longshore jobs hereditary by contract.
    	In short good luck getting a job there unless you were a
    	relation of a current union member...

    	PS: I'm not kidding....

    	IBM

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