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Re: Aggressive Driving

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From: Joel Garry
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 00:00
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On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 07:24:41 GMT, Daniel I. Manes <danthman@umich.edu> wrote:
>In article <35A2F77B.857B7B2B@lr.net>, Mike Sweeney <msweeney@lr.net> wrote:
>
>> Steven Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> > You seem to forget that having ABS usually will result in a shorter stopping
>> > distance.
>> 
>> Actually, if you consult back issues of some of the automotive magazines, you
>> may find that they proved that a reasonably good driver could stop shorter on
>> dry pavement w/o ABS.  The only situations where ABS showed a marked
>improvement
>> was on snow/ice, and where different wheels were on different surfaces (like
>> riding the edge of the roadway.)
>> 
>> M
>
>Well, I just DID consult a back issue of R&T (July, 1997).  According to
>their tests:
>
>==========
>
>ICE: ABS was horrible--it took 220 ft to stop from 20 mph versus 135 for non-ABS
>
>SNOW: ABS was a few feet better from 30 mph on hard-packed and scarfed and
>a few feet worse on fresh snow
>
>GRAVEL: ABS was about 12 feet worse from 30 mph than simply locking up the tires
>
>SAND: Not much difference between ABS and non-ABS from 30 mph
>
>WET: ABS was 8 to 10 feet better from 30 MPH
>
>DRY: ABS was about 35 feet better from 60 (about 90 if you lock up the tires!)
>
>But let's not forget the main purpose of ABS is to allow for some steering
>control under hard braking.  For some drivers, this has caused them to
>steer themselves right off the road, but for the more talented among us,
>it's probably prevented quite a few accidents.
>

I'm glad someone pointed this out.  Both speeding and not, I've personally
seen it avoid accidents and cute little doggies (yes, running out on the
freeway).

>-Dan


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From: joelga@pebble.org (Joel Garry)
Subject: Re: Aggressive Driving
Date: 1998/07/09
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