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Article #1081Re: Aggressive Driving
From: Joel Garry
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 00:00
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On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 07:24:41 GMT, Daniel I. Manes <danthman@umich.edu> wrote: >In article <35A2F77B.857B7B2B@lr.net>, Mike Sweeney <msweeney@lr.net> wrote: > >> Steven Fisher wrote: >> >> > You seem to forget that having ABS usually will result in a shorter stopping >> > distance. >> >> Actually, if you consult back issues of some of the automotive magazines, you >> may find that they proved that a reasonably good driver could stop shorter on >> dry pavement w/o ABS. The only situations where ABS showed a marked >improvement >> was on snow/ice, and where different wheels were on different surfaces (like >> riding the edge of the roadway.) >> >> M > >Well, I just DID consult a back issue of R&T (July, 1997). According to >their tests: > >========== > >ICE: ABS was horrible--it took 220 ft to stop from 20 mph versus 135 for non-ABS > >SNOW: ABS was a few feet better from 30 mph on hard-packed and scarfed and >a few feet worse on fresh snow > >GRAVEL: ABS was about 12 feet worse from 30 mph than simply locking up the tires > >SAND: Not much difference between ABS and non-ABS from 30 mph > >WET: ABS was 8 to 10 feet better from 30 MPH > >DRY: ABS was about 35 feet better from 60 (about 90 if you lock up the tires!) > >But let's not forget the main purpose of ABS is to allow for some steering >control under hard braking. For some drivers, this has caused them to >steer themselves right off the road, but for the more talented among us, >it's probably prevented quite a few accidents. > I'm glad someone pointed this out. Both speeding and not, I've personally seen it avoid accidents and cute little doggies (yes, running out on the freeway). >-Dan -- These opinions are my own and not necessarily those of Information Quest or Pebble In The Sky http://www.informationquest.com mailto:jgarry@nospameiq.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/joel_garry Remove nospam to reply. mailto:joel_garry@compuserve.nospam.com "See your DBA?" I AM the @#%*& DBA!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1038e3,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1038e3,public X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1cb,public X-Google-Thread: 1011e5,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1011e5,public X-Google-Thread: 10001a,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10001a,public X-Google-Thread: f4d80,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4d80,public X-Google-Thread: 10e16d,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e16d,public From: joelga@pebble.org (Joel Garry) Subject: Re: Aggressive Driving Date: 1998/07/09 Message-ID: <slrn6q9vf3.jd5.joelga@pebble.org> X-Deja-AN: 369927843 References: <danthman-2806982338080001@dt064n47.san.rr.com> <35973949.46557186@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-2906981919490001@dt064n47.san.rr.com> <6ndta3$snp$1@yelm.tc.fluke.com> <359a7a47.11020512@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-0107982042130001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> <359b0c82.48460603@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-0207981957380001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> <359c4c18.39673598@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <359C8FA9.22AF5CF9@compuserve.com> <359ca0eb.61392126@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <359CD681.9E5E062B@compuserve.com> <359d283c.7205650@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <359DAC09.6EA0E1F9@pop.site1.csi.com> <359dd6b4.51876808@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-0407981321100001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> <359ea814.17087485@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-0507980230570001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> <359fb413.3774692@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <danthman-0507981350580001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> <35a011ca.27769834@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <6nr5l1$nso@news.microsoft.com> <35A2F77B.857B7B2B@lr.net> <danthman-0807980024400001@dt064n50.san.rr.com> Organization: Natural Surrealist Light Peoples Party High Speed Transport Division Reply-To: joelga@nospam.pebble.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:28:46 PDT Newsgroups: dc.driving,rec.autos.driving,misc.legal,alt.law-enforcement,seattle.general,ca.driving