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On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:25:18 GMT, joelga@pebble.org (Joel Garry)
wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>Do you know the difference between criminal common law and traffic infractions?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, do you?
>>>
>>>Yes, but from your postings, I don't believe you.
>>
>>How so?
>
>Because you said:
>
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>
>No, just for speeding and perhaps some other deliberate violations.
>
>>
>>Why should the imcompetent not be held to the same standards?
>
>Because they are....incompetent....
>
>>  You
>>probably agree with the judge that let the elderly person walk after
>>running over pedestrians on the sidewalk.
>
>What do you mean by "walk?"   Nobody who kills another for whatever
>reason just "walks," they usually pay a heavy, heavy
>price...particularly those who had no intent to kill.
>
>It depends on the specific circumstances, but I'd certainly revoke
>their license.
>
>>  After all, you can't blame
>>someone that inadvertently kills, but if they deliberately park in a
>>fire lane they should go straight to jail.
>
>Correct in part.  Whether someone who "inadvertently kills" is
>culpable depends on the specific circumstances and their degree of
>negligence, but someone who breaks the law *deliberately* and with
>malice aforethought, deserves harsh punishment as a reminder that
>society will not tolerate scofflaws.
>
>Deliberation and intent have always been factors in the punishment for
>any crime.
>
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>
>That first line there.  It implies that you don't know that speeding is
>a traffic infraction that requires no intent, no malice aforthought.

>Now perhaps you didn't mean to imply that deliberate goes with speeding,
>but you've made it quite clear you are talking about "deliberate speeders,"
>so any ambiguity in that first line is gone.  In other words, you are 
>taking something that is not defined in the criminal code or criminal
>common law, calling it a crime, and daring me to point that out.  So, no,
>you don't appear to know the difference between criminal common law and
>traffic infractions.

Well if you'll notice, I was stating my opinion on what I think the
law *should* be, not what it is.

Regards,

Scott Weiser

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