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Re: Aggressive Driving

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From: Brandon Sommerville
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 00:00
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E. Faubion wrote:

>grimrod@mindless.com (Brandon Sommerville) wrote:
>
>>You mean you like the way he snips questions?
>
>Why does it bother you that someone holds different views than yours? 

I don't care if you have a different opinion than me, it makes you
look ignorant when if you don't like a question you snip it rather
than answering it.

>>Assuming crappy tires.  Now put a good set of shoes on your car and
>>try it out.
>
>The coefficient of friction is derived from a fully locked (or in the
>case of ABS, max braking) tires on the roadway and this cannot be
>achieved unless the brakes work.  A little research on your part would
>have prevented you from posting this response.

Why on earth would you want to fully lock your wheels?  That's a sure
ticket to increasing your stopping distances.

>>Wisconsin speed limit compliance:
>
>>1995, 55 mph speed limit, 8.6%
>>1996, 65 mph speed limit, 35.1%
>
>Source please.  And just for fun how about some WI accident stats.

WIS DOT.  Don't have the accident stats off hand, perhaps Jim Walker
does?  Jim?

>>Highways have multiple lanes.  Other countries make do with higher
>>speed limits, in fact there's one that makes do with no speed limits
>>on some sections of it's highways (and yet have a fatality rate (note
>>the term rate) similar to the US).  Are you implying that Americans
>>will never be able to drive at that level, despite better training?
>
>Try this on for size:
>
>http://www.virtual01.com/speedlimits/index.shtml
>Fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles driven.
>       U.S.    Germany
>1987   1.11     1.01
>1988   1.17     0.96
>1989   1.08     0.98
>1990   1.04     1.11
>1991   0.93     1.09
>1992   0.85     0.94
>1993   0.87     0.87

Hmm, so despite having no speed limits, the german fatality rates were
sometime better and sometimes worse, but always close.  Seems to me
that defeats your argument that high speeds entail higher accident
rates.

>>If the laws were set properly we wouldn't break them.
>
>Blackmail mentality.  If money was free armed robbers wouldn't rob.
>No difference.

Not quite.  It's proven that raising speed limits doesn't raise speeds
traveled by equivalent amounts.
-- 
Brandon

"Spooooooooooonnnnn!"
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From: grimrod@mindless.moc (Brandon Sommerville)
Subject: Re: Aggressive Driving
Date: 1998/07/06
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