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On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 17:33:38 GMT, Scott Weiser <weiser@dimensional.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:34:51 GMT, Gumbyy@ticnet.com (Marc) wrote:
>
>>weiser@dimensional.com (Scott Weiser) wrote:
>>>On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 04:12:30 GMT, Gumbyy@ticnet.com (Marc) wrote:
>>>>weiser@dimensional.com (Scott Weiser) wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 04:07:41 GMT, Gumbyy@ticnet.com (Marc) wrote:
>>>>>>player1@not.replyable.com (Jim String) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>In principle I agree with this however if the policy's intent is to
>>>>>>>>>legislate a law so others can break the law then we've gone too far.
>>
>>>>>>>>For once, you are right.  They should just raise the limit by 20mph an
>>>>>>>>post a minimum at the current limit.  But, it is easier to just have
>>>>>>>>conflicting laws that the police their descretion to descriminate
>>>>>>>>with.  Plus, the cops like that better.  Not that they have to worry
>>
>>>>>>>Now that's a scary thought. You're saying something akin to "make
>>>>>>>everything illegal, then we can bust whomever we don't like..."
>>
>>>>>>I break at least one law a day.  I don't know anyone that drives every
>>>>>>day that doesn't break at least one law a day.  Everything is already
>>>>>>illegal, so why would they need any more laws to make criminals out of
>>>>>>us?
>>
>>>>>The question is whether you do it inadvertently or deliberately.
>>
>>>>Why does that matter?  What would it signify for each of the answers?
>>
>>>Because if it's deliberate, you need to be in jail.
>>
>>Every deliberate violation of a law should result in jail?  Even for
>>illegal parking?
>
>No, just for speeding and perhaps some other deliberate violations.
>
>>
>>Why should the imcompetent not be held to the same standards?
>
>Because they are....incompetent....
>
>>  You
>>probably agree with the judge that let the elderly person walk after
>>running over pedestrians on the sidewalk.
>
>What do you mean by "walk?"   Nobody who kills another for whatever
>reason just "walks," they usually pay a heavy, heavy
>price...particularly those who had no intent to kill.
>
>It depends on the specific circumstances, but I'd certainly revoke
>their license.
>
>>  After all, you can't blame
>>someone that inadvertently kills, but if they deliberately park in a
>>fire lane they should go straight to jail.
>
>Correct in part.  Whether someone who "inadvertently kills" is
>culpable depends on the specific circumstances and their degree of
>negligence, but someone who breaks the law *deliberately* and with
>malice aforethought, deserves harsh punishment as a reminder that
>society will not tolerate scofflaws.
>
>Deliberation and intent have always been factors in the punishment for
>any crime.
>Regards,
>
>Scott Weiser

So now you are saying the unintentional speeder should go to jail because
he is a criminal because he was speeding so that means he had malice
aforethought because he was speeding and therefore could not have been
unintentional?

Do you know the difference between criminal common law and traffic infractions?

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