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Article #1540Re: Speeding, Tailgating, and Reckless Driving
From: dmc
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 00:00
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On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 20:30:32 GMT, stevenhs@microsoft.com wrote: >I live in Seattle also and find no problem getting to highway speed in >the very underwhelming vehicles I drive. Maybe there are specific >ramps you are referring to, but it sure doesn't seem any different >than other cities (all US) that I've lived in. (While visiting >Toronto several years ago, I did find some problems merging up to >highway speeds on the short uphill entrances to the elevated >freeway--QEW?) The entrances/exits on the left, as well as right side >HOV lanes, are undesirable but a design necessity in dense urban >areas. > >Although the nature of traffic here is gradually changing as more >non-natives relocate here, Seattle drivers are perhaps the most >passive drivers I've ever experienced. Their timid merging has >nothing to do with an inability to accelerate. It is a lack of will. >Throw into the mix the aggressive non-natives and it makes driving >here interesting. But OTOH at rush hour you are basically confined to >20 mph. You make excellent points. I was thinking of specific on/off ramps (520, 2, etc.) Some of the uphill on-ramps are difficult. I own a Geo Metro (1989 3-cylinder) and it's quite often very difficult to accelerate with traffic. But that's about as puny as engines get, so maybe that's the bottom of the curve. Luckily that's my just-in-case/carry the dog car, not my primary. I agree that drivers in these parts are very conservative. It gets even worse in central Washington. >On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:07:08 GMT, dmc@dmc.com (dmc) wrote: > >>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998 08:28:29 GMT, whorning@pipeline.com (Walt Horning) >>wrote: >> >>> (1) make highways safe as poosible with guard rails down the middle >>> when opposing lanes are too close (unlike here) >>> (2) driver training is mandatory. No training, no license >>> (3) let them drive fast enough to ease congestion and thus actually >>> reduce deaths by increased limits or have none at all. >> >>A very large problem with trying to implement this (at least in >>Seattle) is that on-ramps often don't provide enough length for the >>average car to accelerate to the posted speed limit, let alone a >>higher speed. >> >>Merging in Seattle is ridiculous. People try to merge into 60 mph >>traffic at 40mph. The commuter lane (carpool) is often on the right, >>too. Since traffic tends to move faster in the carpool lane, people >>have to merge across high-speed traffic into stopped non-carpool >>lanes. Gee, why would that cause a problem? >> >>We just don't get it here in America. >>*-- >>Daryl dmc >>dmc@brig-a-doon.com >> >>Remove the hyphens to reply > *-- Daryl dmc dmc@brig-a-doon.com Remove the hyphens to reply
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1cb,public X-Google-Thread: 1038e3,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1038e3,public X-Google-Thread: f4d80,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4d80,public X-Google-Thread: 1011e5,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1011e5,public X-Google-Thread: 10001a,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10001a,public X-Google-Thread: 10e16d,a813ba40692ae7c2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e16d,public From: dmc@dmc.com (dmc) Subject: Re: Speeding, Tailgating, and Reckless Driving Date: 1998/07/01 Message-ID: <359aab2e.104899407@news1.brigadoon.com> X-Deja-AN: 367880789 Sender: nai1@206.113.164.42 References: <35941A85.7310@erols.com> <35952cff.791952@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <3595D2FF.1DB5@richmond.infi.net> <3597b3b3.59252089@news.pipeline.com> <359697bc.5194531@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <3596CDB1.A763DD30@prodigy.net.nospam> <3596d524.20916793@news.okc.oklahoma.net> <359a9d1f.14357397@news.pipeline.com> <3599288e.5923998@news1.brigadoon.com> <359a998e.97564812@newsvr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jul 1998 21:39:57 GMT X-Trace: news6.ispnews.com 899329197 9940 206.113.164.42 (1 Jul 1998 21:39:57 GMT) Organization: dmc Newsgroups: dc.driving,rec.autos.driving,misc.legal,alt.law-enforcement,seattle.general,ca.driving