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In article <36C1188C.60D3@stuff.com>,
  bryan <bryan@stuff.com> wrote:
> shape@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > My Eclipse came with 210hp and 214lb-ft of torque stock.  Now I have
> > around 280-290hp and even more torque.  A friend of mine with the same
> > turbo as I have installed (actually, I bought the turbo off of him) got
> > his car up to 150mph.
>
> Did you actually get it dynod at 280hp or did you just add up all the
> supposed gains from mod parts?

I can't get my car dynoed.  First try to find an AWD dyno.  Out of
those, try to spend less than $1000/hour.

And none of the parts that I bought for my car have associated
hp numbers.  I don't go for that crap.

I am mainly going by my mph at the end of a 1/4 mi run with a crappy
1.9s 60 ft launch.  97.6mph.  This was one of my last runs of the season.
280hp is a little high for that mph.  But I have a few more mods now,
including a new, stronger clutch that will not just spin on the flywheel
when I launch.  And you have to remember that an AWD car has a lot of
drivetrain loss.  My car weighs 3380lbs with me in it.

> > Don't count out a car just because it has a 4 cylinder engine.  My
> > friend's Eagle Talon will out accelerate a Viper in the 1/4mi.
>
> I have yet to see any of these claims proven..."my civic can smoke a
> viper...my accord can smoke a corvette..."  yeah maybe after you dump
> $20k into it...but stock?  No way...

Umm, no, not stock.  I thought that was obvious.  Here is the formula.
3" exhaust, 16G turbo, boost controller, VPC, a number of larger diameter
pipes on the intake, a larger intercooler.  $20,000?  Not even close.

Want to see the proof?
http://www.heckconsulting.com/dsm/drag.html

Those are the fastest DSMs in the country.  A bunch of them include
scans of timeslips.  And I guarantee you that none of the guys running
in the 11's or 12's have spent $20,000 in mods.  Maybe if you include
the price of the car... ;-)

And I just heard that a FWD DSM just ran 10.8 in the 1/4 mi a few
nights ago.  It isn't posted on that page yet, though.

> > Stock, a turbocharged Eclipse has as much hp as an older 5.0L Mustang.
> >
> > And with a bit more boost, the Eclipse can blow it away.
>
> I dunno...I had a 5.0 GT (93') and a 5.0 LX (92') and no 4 banger I've
> ever driven compares...even the v6 vtec hondas and newer maximas don't
> match up..

You just haven't driven the right car.

> Havn't driven a turbo (that I know of) so maybe I'm wrong...

Doh!  Well there you go.  Go out and find yourself a modified DSM to
drive! :-)  If it is AWD, rev the car to 5000RPMs and slip out
the clutch.  Faster off the line acceleration on radials than any
2WD car out there.

Josh Wingell
'97 Eclipse GSX

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