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On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:48:22 GMT, woody93lx@my-dejanews.com 
<woody93lx@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>In article <79munk$28s$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
>  shape@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>> In article <36BDA802.181D3CDA@csi.com>,
>>   DPH <rally2xs@csi.com> wrote:
>> > bryan wrote:
>> > >         Hehe...HAHAHA!  How long do you think those little 4bangers can
>keep
>> > > the speed at 134 mph?  how fast do they accelerate after you get up to
>> > > 80-90mph?  It has no torque!
>> > >
>> > > hehehehehAHAHAHA
>> > >
>> > > 190hp...hahaha
>>
>> My Eclipse came with 210hp and 214lb-ft of torque stock.  Now I have
>> around 280-290hp and even more torque.  A friend of mine with the same
>> turbo as I have installed (actually, I bought the turbo off of him) got
>> his car up to 150mph.
>>
>> Don't count out a car just because it has a 4 cylinder engine.  My
>> friend's Eagle Talon will out accelerate a Viper in the 1/4mi.
>>
>> Stock, a turbocharged Eclipse has as much hp as an older 5.0L Mustang.
>>
>> And with a bit more boost, the Eclipse can blow it away.
>>
>> Josh Wingell
>> '97 Eclipse GSX
>
>
>Yeah, alot of people don't know that a 4cyl or 6cyl can handle much more
>boost than say a pushrod V8....especially compared to what they are at stock.
>And topspeed is more about aerodynamics. 134mph is really respectable as a
>pre '93 Mustang can only do 138mph and an MR2 Turbo did about 141mph (225hp
>vs 200hp) as shown in a Motor Trend top speed battle between these two cars.

On the other hand, putting a blower on a pushrod Corvette C5 will make a car
that already beats the four-bangers even faster.  And it already has better
aerodynamics.  Blowing pretty much any C4 or C5, and most Stingrays, will make
a much faster car than any four banger (including Lotus and that weird looking
thingie that used Chrysler turbos).  Blowers are readily available for
$2000-5000, depending on how much work you want to do and how fast you want
to go.  Some are about the size and shape of an alternator.

It is still true that there is no substitute for displacement.  That's why
people put 5.0 engines in Miatas.  Then they supercharge _that_.  Then they
put on bigger tires because there's only so much power you can get to the 
ground anyways.  Then...  http://www.monstermotorsports.com

>
>My midly modified Mustang was beaten by a 1st gen Talon. But I'm sure it was
>nitrous as he made me look like i was standing still in 3rd gear.

Don't worry, he won't be doing it for long if it is.  A couple of blown 
engines, it gets old real fast.  I was talking to a guy with a '64 Vette
with Nitrous, he said the first time he pushed the red button with his
newly built engine, it cost $6500.  That is, to build it again.

>
>The 2nd gen DSMs are slower though and the 1st gen DSMs can't take a 5.0L
>stock for stock...but turning up the boost is another thing.

Definitely a rich boys mistake.

jg
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