🚀 go-pugleaf

"Scott M. Kozel" <kozelsm@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>Joel Garry <joelga@pebble.org> wrote:
>> Scott M. Kozel <kozelsm@richmond.infi.net> wrote:

>> >All suicide is stupid.
 
Nope.  It always makes sense to at least one person, and sometimes
more.

>> People attempting to commit suicide with their cars, on the other hand,
>> ought to be stopped.  It's generally a cry for help.

Suicides aren't cries for help.  Failed suicides are.  It takes
someone getting interrupted or a level of complete incompetence that
is inconcievable to fail.

I've seen the cries for help.  They are quite obvious to those that
know what the signs are.  Even in high school, I got someone pulled
out of school after telling the principal about his actions and what
they meant (she knew, but another person who observed the actions
making the same conclusion, even a student, allowed for immediate
action without question).  And he was still a friend when he was later
readmitted to school.

There are only two people that I know that truely wanted to commit
suicide that failed.  Both were interrupted and only barely lived.  If
it didn't require a visit to an ER and hours of work, they probably
weren't trying.

>I've heard it's generally an attempt to make it look like an "accident".

Sure.  We all know that speed is the sole cause of accidents in the
US.  When someone was going 100+ without a seatbelt and aims for a
wall (but doesn't leave a suicide note), it will add to the numbers of
"speed kills" victims.  Earl has said the same thing.

It's because of the incompetent accident investigation (or the
outright lying) that the suicide numbers are underrepresented.  Earl
said that himself too.  If he suspects that speed may be a cause, it
gets listed.  If he suspects that suicide may be a cause, it isn't
listed (only if is is undeniable, like if a note is left).

The double standard is put there to preserve the Christian ethic,
since many think that is the one unforgivable sin.  The Christian
domination in our society controls everything from banning certain
things from being sold on Sundays to "honoring" the memory of the dead
by lying about them.  Why bother lying after they are dead?  If they
were to face God, She'd know no matter what was written on some
report.

The lying only interferes with proper record keeping, which also leads
to more total death by misdirection of needed funds.

Marc
Let's see, I've insulted society, Christianity, and defended suicide.
I guess it's time to don the Nomex.
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