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5 total messages Started by nkibe Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:00
Lane Discipline
#1934
Author: nkibe
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:00
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While the reasons for the almost nationwide collapse of lane discipline
are well known (treating a speed limit as a limiting speed through the 
driving chain of training, signposting, enforcement, prosecution and penalty;
not yielding to "scofflaws"; socially tolerating and accepting vigilante/legalistic/
selfish/meanspirited attitudes and behaviours; having little first hand knowledge
of arguably superior motoring practices in other advanced motoring societies;
fading memories of pre-55mph driving courtesies; defining an overwhelming
deviancy down as "normal" through denial; etc. etc.), the question is:

How can this situation be reversed?

Raising the speed limit incrementally (55 to 65; 65 to 70; etc.) does not
seem to be very effective, if the final speed is still low enough for
a lane blocker to obstruct others with relative safety.  On the other hand,
lane blocking seems relatively uncommon at speed limits set in the 
75mph+ range, when drivers realise intuitively that the margin of safety
which allows wilful lane blocking has shrunk.  But few states are going to set
limits so high, primarily because they are not "empty" enough (although
Europe is hardly "empty" and yet their superhighways are faster and safer).

Perhaps this is a campaign worthy of the NMA's mettle, now that they have
won the anti-NMSL battle.

Personal views, of course.

Nitin Kibe.
Re: Lane Discipline
#1931
Author: Rachel Priebee
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:00
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nkibe@worldbank.org (nkibe) wrote:

> Raising the speed limit incrementally (55 to 65; 65 to 70; etc.) does not
> seem to be very effective, if the final speed is still low enough for
> a lane blocker to obstruct others with relative safety. 


Here in New Zealand they're trialling large, red signs which read
"keep left unless overtaking."

From my observations this doesn't seem to be very effective.





Rachel
Re: Lane Discipline
#1932
Author: Stephen Dailey
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <4e9f62$gm2@golem.wcc.govt.nz> Rachel Priebee <Priebee_R@wcc.govt.nz> writes:
>nkibe@worldbank.org (nkibe) wrote:

>> Raising the speed limit incrementally (55 to 65; 65 to 70; etc.) does not
>> seem to be very effective, if the final speed is still low enough for
>> a lane blocker to obstruct others with relative safety. 


>Here in New Zealand they're trialling large, red signs which read
>"keep left unless overtaking."

>From my observations this doesn't seem to be very effective.

In Washington, the signs say "Slower traffic keep right."  In Oregon they say 
"Keep right except to pass-State law."

Drivers in Oregon keep right better than those in Washington.

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Steve
Woodinville, Washington USA
smdailey@smdailey.seanet.com
Re: Lane Discipline
#1933
Author: D Banks
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:00
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->In Washington, the signs say "Slower traffic keep right." 
-> In Oregon they say"Keep right except to pass-State law."


Unless you've been elected to the state legislature, 
you can't pass state law.

[couldn't resist :) ]
Re: Lane Discipline
#1930
Author: Stephen Dailey
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <4ebf7h$9sr@angate.disc-net.com> D Banks <david_banks@gdt.com> writes:

>->In Washington, the signs say "Slower traffic keep right." 
>-> In Oregon they say"Keep right except to pass-State law."

>Unless you've been elected to the state legislature, 
>you can't pass state law.

>[couldn't resist :) ]

Hell, the legislature here couldn't pass stewed prunes and baked beans!  :-)

-----
Steve
Woodinville, Washington USA
smdailey@smdailey.seanet.com
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