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Article #450Re: Let's talk about secret installations
From: Dave Pipes x4552
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:53
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:53
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In article <713548971.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> Nelson.F..Steele@p807.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Nelson F. Steele) writes: >On 8/10/92 Dave Pipes x4552 said to All: > > DP> For > DP> example: If they did monitor to the extent possible in 1984, why would > DP> the FBI even have to tap someone to get evidence? They'd just call > DP> NSA and get the tapes... > >In a stunning example of inter-agency cooperation. NSA monitored Americans in >the 60s (Puzzle Palace). If they're doing it now I think they'd be reluctant to >tell anyone else. The previous poster, to whom I replied, painted a picture of a 1984 style world where the government just does whatever it pleases, brutally suppressing the rights of individuals. I tried to point out that things would be very different if that was indeed happening. The fact that they did it in the 60's, to a few people, and handed the info over does not mean that they do it now. And remember, there were active terrorists in the US in the 60's - surely keeping an eye on them was a good thing. There were actually full scale assaults on government facilities on a few occasions, solely for the purpose of gaining weapons. So there are situations where monitoring is wise. I repeat - if the information is being abused, we would see some evidence of it, sooner or later. Much as some enjoy the aura of fear such assertions create, we are not living in a police state. David Pipes For one thing, if we were, I could walk through Southeast DC at night... robear@digex.com
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Newsgroups: dc.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!srg!spica!dpipes From: dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) Subject: Re: Let's talk about secret installations Organization: just me Distribution: dc Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:53:18 GMT Message-ID: <1992Aug12.165318.3128@srg.srg.af.mil> Followup-To: dc.general References: <713548971.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> Sender: news@srg.srg.af.mil (Usenet news user) Lines: 32