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Article #54676Re: Speeding & radar gun locking
From: David M. Baggett
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 13:48
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 13:48
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In article <22200@oasys.dt.navy.mil> dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) writes: >If this guy has a few points on his license, maybe it will do some good >and slow him down a little. Might just save somebody's life. By extension the speed limit should be zero, since that's the safest speed. Driving is inherently dangerous and (fundamentally) is simply a tradeoff: more mobility for most people vs. injury and death for the unlucky. If you want to *not* be a hazard, drive at a speed consistent with the current traffic flow rate in your lane. At least on 95 between Baltimore and Washington, that means between 60 and 70; the Washington post reported the average speed as being in the mid-60's. (This was a while back, when the police decided they'd crack down and reduce the average speed. Oh well.) If you go either 50 or 80 you're probably going to be disrupting the normal traffic pattern. >I've driven in VA for a great many years; the state police normally "give' >you 5 miles over the limit as an error. Great. Since the speed limit is obviously ridiculous compared to the average speed (obviously what most people generally consider to be reasonable), we just make the point at which the law is enforced fuzzy. That way everyone just drives the way they'd normally drive, but 90% of the drivers are techincally breaking the law and can be nailed whenever the state needs a little more money. Remember that 55 is supposed to be the *absolute maximum*, not the average speed. To keep the speed limit in line with the real average traffic speed you'd have to either raise the limit to 70 or slow most people down to 50 or 45. Several truckers did an experiment in New Jersey back when the police were doing their rolling roadblocks and nailing people for going 56: they would block all the lanes going 55 miles an hour. What happened? Traffic backed up for miles, the implication being that, at least in some areas, the road system is incapable of adequately sustaining the amount of traffic that the reduced throughput an enforced 55 mph limit would cause. >Like the poster said earlier, "if you can't do the time, don't commit >the crime"... Jeez, this isn't murder, it's just speeding. Personally, I'm not going to do something demonstrably dangerous, regardless of whether being safe (in my view) is illegal or not. Driving 55 on 95 is not usually safe (or, at the very least, not *as* safe as driving 65). The police know that, which is why they won't normally give you a ticket for going 60. Your mileage may vary. :) W.r.t. radar, in my experience (which is admittedly limited to one court visit during which I only heard about 10 cases in addition to my own), if you place blame on the radar gun or operator, the judge will either ignore it or tell you you're lying and double your fine. (Then again, maybe that judge was just having a bad day.) The "Your Honor, I'm usally a safe driver and I know I shouldn't have been going XX miles an hour in an YY zone" seemed a lot more effective. In the original poster's case, it might be be best to say something like, "I know the radar says XX, and even though I thought I was only going YY, they're both against the law and I shouldn't have done it. (Boo-hoo)." For some reason judges don't seem to appreciate any arguing in traffic court. Dave Baggett dmb@wam.umd.edu
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101049,42413b28c2f5309e X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-07-13 03:34:10 PST Newsgroups: dc.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!dmb From: dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) Subject: Re: Speeding & radar gun locking Message-ID: <1992Jul13.134851.5792@wam.umd.edu> Sender: usenet@wam.umd.edu (USENET News system) Nntp-Posting-Host: rac2.wam.umd.edu Organization: University of Maryland, College Park References: <1992Jul9.204254.1999@access.digex.com> <1992Jul12.170723.15881@eng.umd.edu> <22200@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 13:48:51 GMT Lines: 64