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Re: Public Access Unix systems?

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From: Kurt J. Lidl
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1992 21:18
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In article <1992Apr29.163925.27486@access.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr25.035239.6808@sura.net> lidl@sura.net (Kurt J. Lidl) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr23.233523.2409@access.digex.com> mike@access.digex.com (Michael T. Doughney) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr21.175935.23352@asd.com> scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
>>>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>>>
>>>[long, obnoxious posting removed]
>>
>>This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
>>Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
>>for?
>>
>>Please re-read the new users guide to correct network practices.
>
>Why not? It's certainly pertinent to DC.

Pertinent to DC, yes.  Pertinent to dc.general, no.  There is a place
for advertising.  The dc.general newsgroup is *not* it.  Why not just
kill the cross-post to dc.general, and just post it to alt.bbs.ads?  It
exists for this type of things.  If Mike *had* to post it, why the heck
not to dc.forsale?  They are selling a service (in a for-profit
manner), USENET and E-Mail access.  Therefore, it should be regulated
to the *correct channels*.  dc.general is *not* the correct channel.

>I wish I had seen postings like this *more* often when I needed them...

Perhaps you were not investigating the correct places on the net?

>I lost net access when I graduated from college, and had no idea how I
>could get it back again.  Services like the one advertised (which I
>happen to subscribe to, but am not otherwise affiliated with) are very
>important to people who do not go to school or work in a place where
>there is internet access and want to stay on the net.

I've got no problem with them selling the service.  I've got a problem
with them advertising in the wrong place.

>Where else should they advertise?

See above.

>How else will people find out about this very valuable service?

Flyers, ads on local area BBS's, etc.

>Seems like the most obvious place is on the net.

Seems like the most obvious place is on the net, IN THE CORRECT PLACE!

>Whatever the exact usenet guideline which pertains to commercial 
>advertising is,

USENET has no guidelines, except for common sense.  It is the people who
use the NSFnet backbones that have to follow an AUP (acceptable use policy).

>I think that an exception which most people won't have
>a problem with is people who offer *usenet access*.

I think that people would complain quite a bit if I started posting
SURAnet propoganda in dc.general on a regular basis.

>You may take your usenet access for granted but a lot of people leaving
>college or changing their place of work don't and benefit from services
>such as digex.... that is, if they can find out about them.

Again, the complaint is not the message, and not even the media, it's the
place in the medium that I am distressed about.

>James A. Treworgy    "And it all would be so crystal clear, if it wasn't for
>jamie@digex.com         the foam..."          (jamie@sun.astro.wesleyan.edu)


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/* Kurt J. Lidl (lidl@sura.net)       | Unix is the answer, but only if you */
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