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Re: Flame: SIZE OF CROWD AT CHICKEN RIGHTS MARCH

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From: Sandip Dasgupta
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 07:19
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In article <1992Apr16.191608.22474@almserv.uucp> s5uagm@fnma.COM writes:
>In article 16457@wam.umd.edu, dipster@wam.umd.edu (Sandip Dasgupta) writes:
>
>Various drivel induced by an overdose of bulgar wheat, including...
>
    [ Various drivel induced by a bulgar ]
>> 
>
>
>> If
>>we were raising chickens only for feeding your birds, we wouldnt
>>have to store them in sick cages and waste about 100 million
>>gallons of water daily, and waste many more times the grain
>>to produce the chicken energy, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
>
>Add nauseum is right.  How much water did we waste keeping you 
>alive today?
>
    There is a vast difference, my friend, between the biological
 need that most life forms have for water to stay alive. That is
NOT waste. Waste is the NEEDLESS waste of water which, in fact,
rthe meat industry is.
>
>>instead of supporting
>>the bullshit which occurs as a natural consequence of your 
>>desire to have convenient neat little (styrofoam) packages
>>waiting for yuou at Giant. Also, it is apparent that you 
>>give no regard to the feeling of chickens.. thats something
>>that you need to arrive at yourself-I cant teach it to you
>
>Also it is apparent that you have no better causes to preach
>for.

   The ignorant are ever judgemental; I have many causes to
preach for; and the fact that this one is perceived to be
unimportant by you makes you a prime candidate for that preaching.
I fear, however, that such teaching (for want of a more accurate word)
would fall on deaf ears; you have completely missed the boat.
>
>>, but are
>>you aware that Perdue's factory conditionsa are deploarable.
>>A large number of his employees are black women who cant support
>>themselves in other ways and thus are forced to endure the
>>nervous system destruction that inflicts a huge percentage 
>>of his workers? 
>
>Did YOU know that Perdue processing plants in remote rural 
>areas, often provide the only decent opportunity to earn
>a living for hundreds of miles, giving under-educated
>labor a chance to get off welfare?
>
    I just pointed out the unethical practices of Perdue,
and the substandard working conditions, and you call the 
jobs decent? Egad, in one ear and out the other! Anyhow,
the idea that those who are poor and presumably uneducated
are better off by being employed by an asshole is always
used to oppose any improvement on the part of same asshole.
Sorry, Padre, I dont buy it.

>> Did you know that he used organized crime to
>>destabilize a workers protest? 
>
>Did you know that this is slander, (unless you can prove
>it, then it's just liable)?

  Spelling flames aside,(I assume you meant libel?) yes I can
indeed prove this fact. It is interesting that you ask for
proof of this fact and not the others; I would venture to
say that it is because the possibility of its truth scares
you. In any case, consult me through email if you care.
>
>> Did you know that he killed 
>>someone while driving on the wrong side of the highway
>>while intoxicated and payed huge sums of money to go
>>free and have the story as suppressed as possible(Obviously,
>>it didnt toatlly work)?
>
>WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that Chicken 
>causes low tolerance for alcohol.

  Again, a superficial refutation of a fact which only
makes the original case stronger.
>
>				Thanks,
>
>				Andrew

    In general, you have treated this issue in a frivolous
manner. It has always been true that some of the most essential
necessities of life often get taken for granted. The meat industry
is one of the most energy intensive, wasteful, and otherwise
corrupt industries. The American meat habit is one of the largest
causes of the destruction of Central American rainforests. It has
led to the erosion of 75% of our country's topsoil, it uses
enough petroleum so that if every person on the planet were a
meat eater (all other factors being equal) the world's
petroleum supply would deplete in 13 years. The list is
endless. It is the industry that we should consider, not the
basic morality of eating meat. In the future, if we are to
carry on reasonble and informative debates, it is best< I think,
to stick to facts, relevant issues, values, etc. I dont want
to get sucked into a mudslinging personal attack battle such as
this thread has often verged on. 
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From: dipster@wam.umd.edu (Sandip Dasgupta)
Subject: Re: Flame: SIZE OF CROWD AT CHICKEN RIGHTS MARCH
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