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Re: Al Gore - A *Real* Champion of the Common Man!

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From: J. Shawn Stephens
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 00:00
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How do you know how many votes Buchanan was supposed to get?  The purpose of
a secret ballot is that you don't know.  This is merely a case of a sore
loser who believes too much of his own press.  Anyone idiotic enough to
confuse the name Buchanon with that of Gore shouldn't be voting anyway.

--
J. Shawn Stephens
jsstephens@worldnet.att.net
"> Stephen wrote:
>
> > So far Bush has lost the popular vote and is is losing in the electoral
vote
> > count by 14.
> > As everyone knows there have been recounts in Florida because Florida
law
> > rquires there to be if the margin of popular vote is as close as it has
been,
> > and now there are feds and many lawyers in Fla to find out why
screwballish
> > things happened to many votes there.
> > If in fact most of the vote going to Buchanan were suppose to go to Gore
which
> > is suppose to be like 3,000 perhaps more votes Buchanan got he wasnt
suppose to
> > and they go to court and the people involved are allowed to change the
vote from
> > that precinct that voted for Buchanan by accident then the election will
be over
> > and Gore will become president RIGHTFULLY.
> > We'll ultimately see what plays out in the upcoming days if the rightful
things
> > should happen sooner, and thats the real winner, the true elected winner
of this
> > election, Albert Gore will take his place in the White House in January!
> >
> > "Flatch U. Lence" wrote:
> >
> > > Right on brother. Gore is a joke. We all know Bush is going to win.
Bigger
> > > govt. and federally funded free handouts are coming to an end.
> > >
> > > "A. Melon" <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5f2b076ac6f219deb1c9b609bedd2a10@melontraffickers.com...
> > > > Everybody knows that Al is at least a -fair- man, if not entirely
honest,
> > > RIGHT? ;)
> > > >
> > > > AL GORE *STOLE* YOUR INTERNET AND GAVE IT TO THE FEW TO MAKE THEM
RICH -
> > > HIS BIG LIE!
> > > >
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The ARPANet and the NSFNet (which succeeded it) were CLOSED to all
> > > personal
> > > > and commercial use.
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore supported funding a RESEARCH AND EDUCATION network open ONLY
to
> > > > those ivory-tower types that he claims to love so much (but who he
> > > couldn't
> > > > actually run with - he flunked out of college TWICE.)
> > > >
> > > > He in fact OBSTRUCTED access to that network for private individuals
and
> > > > businesses.  Each and every funding bill for the NSFNet prohibited
> > > > commercial or personal use; restrictions that slowed deployment and
use
> > > > of the commercial network by many years.
> > > >
> > > > Rick Adams and Marty Schoffstall "invented" the commercial Internet
you
> > > use
> > > > today, in that they deployed, with PRIVATE MONEY (NOT help from the
> > > > government) a PARALLEL network that was free for any legal use
whatsoever,
> > > > with the only caveat that you had to pay your bill every month.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly like today.
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore OBSTRUCTED the interconnection of these two worlds through
funding
> > > > the NSFNet, and he further participated (indirectly) along with Bill
> > > Clinton,
> > > > Ira Magaziner, and the Department of Commerce with the handover of
> > > BILLIONS
> > > > OF DOLLARS of PUBLIC ASSETS to a PRIVATE COMPANY with ties to the
> > > "spooks" -
> > > > NSI - "the .COM people" - who then spun off SOME (but not all) of
that
> > > > interest to so-called "non-profits" (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC - IP
addresses)
> > > and,
> > > > while claiming to also spin off the domain stuff to the IAHC (and
friends)
> > > > they STILL, to this day, maintain control of the actual root servers
and
> > > > registration back end databases.
> > > >
> > > > A handover, by the way, that permitted NSI to take the company
public,
> > > > and make insiders millionaires, all with publically-funded
development.
> > > >
> > > > Just like Jim Barksdale, who did almost exactly the same thing with
> > > Mosaic.
> > > >
> > > > No wonder Barksdale supports Al Gore.  Gore made him rich by handing
over
> > > > the fruits of taxpayer-funded research to him, and he then converted
that
> > > > to private profit - WHICH WENT IN HIS PERSONAL POCKET.
> > > >
> > > > Just like NSI.
> > > >
> > > > Now don't get me wrong.  I'm not upset at NSI, or at Netscape.  They
did
> > > > the predictable business thing with what they were given.  To expect
a
> > > > business NOT to make a profit with what they have is silly; that, of
> > > course,
> > > > is what business does.
> > > >
> > > > No, my anger is directed at Gore for his FLAT LIE about this matter,
and
> > > the
> > > > rape of the taxpayer that he perpetrated upon the users of the
Internet.
> > > >
> > > > AN INTERNET THAT YOU FUNDED WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS, AND WHICH MADE
THE FEW
> > > > RICH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MANY, AND WHICH WAS *ENGINEERED* BY AL
GORE TO
> > > > GO EXACTLY THIS WAY.
> > > >
> > > > You want to know what Gore and Clinton's TRUE legacy on the Internet
is?
> > > >
> > > > Here it is:
> > > >
> > > > a. Al Gore obstructed the commercial deployment and integration of
> > > > business and personal use into the NSFNet, which he supported in
> > > > funding via Congress and which the NSF, through that funding,
> > > > refused to open to private and commercail use.
> > > >
> > > > b. He continued in this even for several YEARS after TWO commercial,
> > > > side-by-side parallel networks were established by Rick Adams and
> > > > Marty Schoffstall (UUNET and PSI, respectively), and the NSF
> > > > denied full interconnection under the obstructionist practice of
> > > > the "NSFNet Acceptable Use Policy" and the PRDB, administered
> > > > by ANS.  This, despite the fact that Rick and Marty interconnected
> > > > their networks almost immediately upon creation, to the point that
> > > > for all intents and purposes UUNET and PSI customers had ZERO
> > > > discontinuities between them from Day #1.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, it was only after the NSFNet became IRRELAVENT and
> > > > REDUNDANT due to private business doing what government refused
> > > > to do - provide open, unrestricted and unbridled access - that
> > > > the NSFNet was shut down and the obstruction (and funding) ceased.
> > > >
> > > > (It then shifted to the vBNS, which remains closed to public and
> > > > commercial use to this day with a nearly-identical obstructionist
> > > > access policy - a mirror image of the original NSFNet documents.)
> > > >
> > > > c. Clinton/Gore participated in, engineered, and executed what is
> > > > arguably the biggest handover of public assets, in the form of
> > > > IP address space and the DNS root zone, to private industry in
> > > > the history of mankind - without ANY compensation for the value
> > > > stolen from the American People.
> > > >
> > > > This was done in the form of EXCLUSIVE transfers of these rights
> > > > to "favored sons" on a no-bid, no-debate, no-discussion AND NO
> > > > DISCLOSURE (until complete and irreversable, of course) basis.
> > > > Unlike the spectrum auctions the FCC holds for PUBLIC spectrum,
> > > > these assets were given to PRIVATE CONCERNS without so much as
> > > > ONE DIME of compensation or even the *APPEARANCE* of an open and
> > > > public bidding process.
> > > >
> > > > You can thank BOTH the Administration AND Congress for this one
> > > > folks.  They BOTH screwed you, the taxpayer, and deposited the
> > > > balance in the bank accounts of very specific individuals and
> > > > business concerns, who (of course) now support VP Gore. (Wouldn't
> > > > YOU support a man who gave you - almost literally - several hundred
> > > > million dollars?)
> > > >
> > > > All without ONE DIME worth of compensation back to the taxpayer for
> > > > the BILLIONS of dollars in funding that had been expended in that
> > > > R&D over the previous three decades.  Said hand-offs resulted in
> > > > the creation of effective monopolies in the administration of these
> > > > resources under private hands, without true accountability, without
> > > > public meetings, without public debate and without public recourse
> > > > or repayment for the value of those assets transfered from YOUR
WALLET
> > > > as a taxpayer to these PRIVATE hands.  This administration also
> > > > committed several other smaller hand-overs, including Netscape's
> > > > code base (from Mosaic, funded at NCSA with public grant money),
> > > > all of which made certain individuals and private businesses a
> > > > whole shitload of money (off the federal teat from that original
> > > > grant for development.)  NSI went from a government contractor to a
> > > > PUBLICALLY TRADED BUSINESS.  Jim Barksdale's Netscape went from
> > > > literally zero to a publically traded business.  ARIN, RIPE, and
> > > > APNIC now hold between them the entirety of the IPv4 address space,
> > > > are trying to establish a similar chokehold on IPv6 address space,
> > > > and are, again, without effective competition or even public
> > > > visibility.
> > > >
> > > > Attempts to dilute NSI's monopoly control over the .COM/ORG/NET
> > > > zones (with open process) were met with both constructive and
> > > > "behind the scenes" obstruction by multiple business and government
> > > > interests.  Ira Magaziner (and by extension, Clinton) lacked the
> > > > balls to take on the very people they had given this monopoly
> > > > to - gee, I wonder why?
> > > >
> > > > OF COURSE Jim Barksdale supports Al Gore.  His policies made him
> > > > A VERY WEALTHY MAN with its base and essence being PUBLICALLY FUNDED
> > > > RESEARCH when before that point he was a poor publically-funded
> > > > researcher!
> > > >
> > > > DUH!
> > > >
> > > > I know this for a fact, BECAUSE I WAS THERE and was, in fact, the
> > > > architect of eDNS, one of the attempted competitors to the Domain
> > > > monopoly.  That monopoly failed because despite DIRECT pleas to
> > > > Ira Magaziner (Clinton's technology advisor) the DOC, under his
> > > > administration, GAVE AWAY THE STORE TO HIS FRIENDS AND THEN LOCKED
> > > > THE PUBLIC GATE TO INSURE THAT NOBODY ELSE COULD PASS!
> > > >
> > > > If it had not been for Clinton/Gore's OBSTRUCTION of open, public
> > > > process you would have .WEB, .SEX, .XXX, .SHOP, .STORE, .BIZ, .MED,
> > > > .AIRLINE, .CAR, .PER, .NOM, .NAME, and dozens of other domain
> > > > suffixes open to you RIGHT NOW.
> > > >
> > > > You would have domain registrations costing $1.00 per year - or
> > > > even, in a couple of zones, FREE, instead of $35.00.
> > > >
> > > > IF IP ADDRESS ALLOCATION AND THE DNS ROOT ZONE WERE BID OUT IN
PUBLIC
> > > > AUCTION, YOU WOULD HAVE A MORE OPEN, LESS EXPENSIVE, AND MORE
EFFICIENT
> > > > INTERNET THAN YOU HAVE TODAY.
> > > >
> > > > YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE GORE AND CLINTON STOLE THOSE PUBLIC
ASSETS
> > > FROM
> > > > YOU, AS A TAXPAYER, GAVE THEM TO PRIVATE BUSINESS INTERESTS FOR
FREE, AND
> > > > THEY DID THE PREDICTABLE THING WITH THEM - MADE MONEY - AT YOUR
EXPENSE!
> > > >
> > > > AL GORE PARTICIPATED IN WHAT IS ARGUABLY THE BIGGEST RAPE OF THE
AMERICAN
> > > > TAXPAYER IN ALL HISTORY THROUGH THE TRANSFER OF THESE PUBLICALLY
FUNDED
> > > > DEVELOPMENTS AND ASSETS TO PRIVATE HANDS ON A NO-BID, NO-COMPETITION
> > > > AND EXCLUSIVE BASIS.
> > > >
> > > > Now you know what Clinton/Gore's TRUE legacy is with regards to the
> > > Internet.
> > > >
> > > > You want to vote for this guy?
> > > >
> > > > Why would you believe that Gore wouldn't do EXACTLY the same thing
with
> > > > National Parks or ANY OTHER public resource in your state?
> > > >
> > > > He already has a HISTORY of doing it with the Internet!
> > > >
> > > > And that's a FACT.
> > > >
> > > > - --
> > > > - --
> > > > Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids
Rights
> > > Activist
> > > > http://www.denninger.net Cost-effective Consulting Solutions
> > > > http://childrens-justice.org SIGN THE UPREPA PETITION AT THIS SITE
TODAY!
> > > > AL GORE HATES FAMILIES!  See the above site.
> > > >
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> > > > Be sure to distribute this message as you wish and as widely as
possible.
> > > >
> > > > If you doubt the contents, CHECK IT OUT THOROUGHLY, by all means.
> > > >
> > > > Hugs to All,
> > > >
> > > > Hillary Lesbian Reno ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
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From: "J. Shawn Stephens" <jsstephens@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Al Gore - A *Real* Champion of the Common Man!
Date: 2000/11/11
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