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On , Chris Mauritz <ritz@ritz.mordor.net> wrote:

>In nyc.general TraceyLevin,, <tracey12@swbell.net> wrote:
>> Charles Packer wrote:
>>> 
>>> In article <36166af6.270677307@news.dgsys.com>, Jeff Kirk wrote:
>>> >       Recently it has been reported that the Congress and Senate are
>>> >currently reviewing a bill to increase the number of immigrant workers
>>> >into the U.S. in an effort to lessen the burden on the computer
>>> >industry, due to a lack of qualified professionals in that arena.
>>> 
>>> I'm a middle-aged computer programmer who changed jobs recently
>>> after 14 years with my previous employer. I've observed that,
>>> yes, employers want younger, cheaper talent. (But sometimes they
>>> end up hiring two young programmers to do the job that one
>>> experienced programmer could do.) But unionizing isn't the
>>> answer. Unions are for industries where wages truly are low,
>>> as in factories, or where the wages are high but the job is
>>> highly regimented, as with airline pilots.
>
>>   I think the solution may be somewhat different.  
>>   First, we who are computer literate should be in constant contact
>>   with our elected officials.  We need to be well known around their 
>>   office for being very nice, and very concerned about legislatoin.
>
>>   Next, when IBM, or any other company begins to hire imported, low wage
>> programmers, etc., we need to make it known around the net that IBM is
>> undermining Americans by hiring from outside the country when there are
>> many here who can do the job.
>>  
>>   Maybe too it is time for some public protesting in front of the home
>> offices of these companies.  The small savings they achieve by hiring
>> foreigners could easily be offset by a large amount of negative press!
>
>>   We need to impress the public with this information, and explain how
>> UNCONCERNED these companies are about showing support for American
>> employes who can do the work they need to have done.
>
>>   But, if we sit on the sidelines and never protest about actions like
>> these, the multinational, unpatriotic companies will always avoid
>> showing any responsibility to American society from which most of these
>> companies originated.
>
>Horseshit.
>
>You'll have a hard time finding someone more conservative than
>myself and I'll tell you that it's practically impossible to find
>qualified programmers and system admin folks these days.  Demand
>simply outpaces local supply.  I've been trying to find experienced
>programmers and admin folks for my office for months and have 
>seen a veritable rogues gallery of unqualified people.  The good
>folks are very well paid and very unavailable.  The few qualified
>folks I've interviewed were all foreign nationals that required
>our firm to sponsor them for a work visa.

So, could it be that the *good folk* (whatever your interesting
definition of that may be) do not want to work for the _generous_(!),
conservatively formulated wages that you have to offer?

Can you imagine that superior *planning* and educational assistance
(monetary and experience) among other nations might be the reason that
foreign individuals can come to U.S. for this type of employment?  I
have been there and seen the difference, which is both staggering and
sickening, in comparison.

>So while I'd like to hire a US citizen, I'm not going to wait
>around for our educational system to catch up.  And it's not
>like I'm in some farm town.  This is New York City.
>
>Chris

Also, you may want to look around that scum hole that you label a city
and do your best to determine why anyone might not want to live there.

You, sir, are just short of acquiring the definition of *traitor*!


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