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Re: Proposed Criteria for dc.general.moderated: First Rought Draft

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From: klaatu
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:00
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Mike Lastort wrote:
> 
> In article <35E9C296.1C75516D@huskynet.com>, "Keith A. Glass" <salgak@huskynet.com> wrote:
> >OK Folks, there seems to be enough support for dc.general.moderated.
> >
> >Now we have to set some criteria as to what will be allowed:
> >
> >1.  dc.general.moderated is a moderated newsgroup whose purpose is to
> >discuss issues and events of interest to the Metropolitan Washington DC
> >area. It is not a forum for political discussions of items that occur in
> >Washington due to the presence of the seat of the Federal Government:
> >alt.politics.*, talk.politics.*. Nor is it a place to talk about who's
> >running for election in DC, Montgomery, PG, Fairfax, Arlington, or any of the
> >other jurisdictions which comprise the DC Metro area: we have dc.politics for
> >that. . .  unless it's funny.
> 
> I assume that you are attempting to create the newsgroup's charter. I have no
> problem with paragraph 1, except for the final three words. What exactly does
> "unless it's funny" mean? Will it be ok to talk about "funny" politics in
> dc.general.moderated? Or do you mean one cannot discuss politics in
> dc.general.moderated unless dc.politics is "funny" (IAW, having some
> undiagnosed problem)? You need more clarification here. And if you are trying
> to say humorous posts about politics is ok, then you are opening to door to
> any posts about politics, since funny certainly is a subjective thing.

This is quite true. See an example later on.

> 
> >2. Cross-posting policy:  If it's of general interest to DC area
> >netizens, specifically, then it's not likely that it will be of similar
> >interest to other groups, with the exception of perhaps va.general,
> >md.general, and balt.general.  Hence, a limit of 3 other groups
> >may be listed on a post to dc.general.moderated.
> 
> I have no problems with this portion of paragraph 2.

Eh, we could use a little flexibility, say if we're talking the future of
Metrorail versus "outermost-loop" circumferential bus lines, etc., we might
need more than three groups.

> 
> >Furthermore, to limit extraneous cross-posts and net.trolls, if a post is
> >cross-posted to ANY *.politics group, or an alt.fan.* group of a non-DC-area
> >personality, or any talk.* group, it will automatically be excluded.
> 
> What about discussions of local elections? Would it not make sense that posts
> discussing the mayoral race in DC would be crossposted to dc.general.moderated
> and dc.politics?

Probably.

> 
> >3.  There will be two moderators on dc.general.moderated: either may approve
> >a post for forwarding to the group.
> 
> Who are the moderators?

Believe it or not (and here's the humor), me. No, really!

Now pick your jaw up off of the floor, you look silly like that. (and don't
say anything <grin>)

Like I really have time for this, it's not easy being this cheesey.

Oh, and Dave Aaronson, too.


> 
> ><Note: do we want a bot to assist in the moderation of the group, and if
> >so, who runs it ???>
> >We need to talk more to take this part of the charter. . .
> 
> I do not like bots of any kind functioning as moderators. Two human beings
> should be able to adequately moderate the newsgroup.

Probably if dc.general.moderated gets created and moderated, moderation should
probably be pre-screened by a 'bot to get rid of 90-group MLM or MMF or XXX,
and then what remains gets voted on by the moderators in a 2-of-3 mode.

> 
> >4.  Upon formation of dc.general.moderated, we will ask for the
> >dissolution of dc.general at a date "X" days after dc.g.mod is
> >created.  Dc.general will have a daily post notifying users of the change.
> 
> NO! You cannot simply make dc.general go away just because
> dc.general.moderated is created.
> 
> Mike Lastort
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From: klaatu <klaatu@clark.net>
Subject: Re: Proposed Criteria for dc.general.moderated: First Rought Draft
Date: 1998/08/31
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