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Article #6635Re: Alexandria, VA, newsgroup [Proposal]
From: David H. Rothman
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:00
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The suggestion has been made that Alexandria, VA, could get along with a mailing list instead, just like Tacoma Park, MD. I understand worries about newsgroup clutter, but the two situations are different. Tacoma Park is smaller than Alexandria, which has a population of at least 100,000. TP's population in the 1990 census was 16,700 (http://www.census.gov/cdrom/lookup/date=810934871). Not that I'd oppose a local TP group. Quite the contrary! It's just that the parallel won't work out. My biggest concern here is that the Usenet model prevail over the proprietary model. Just today, the Washington Post reported that Amercia Online was starting a DC-oriented service. And earlier I learned that another commercial service would carry Alexandria items. Sounds to me as if the good folks of Alexandria are being split up by nets. A newsgroup would guard against this. The idea is to build some community spirit and interest in local matters; that means a way to reach everyone at once. Here's to the open, universal approach without the meter running at $3 an hour, and without any time limits! A mailing list wouldn't work out as well. Most people would find a newsgroup more manageable, and besides, lists often give birth to cliques--one thing that a newsgroup could avoid. It would be uncensored. Everyone could have a say. The suggestion has also been made that va.alexandria wouldn't interest people in Newport News, say, or Roanoke. As far as I'm concerned, however, they could start their own groups such as va.roanoke. Ideally feeds could filter out va.alexandria. But if this were a problem? Then another approach could be used such as dc.alexandria (given all the overlaps in Beltway Land) or alexandria.news (though I'm aware this is hierarchial heresy :-;). Also it's said that a complicated name would not discourage people. On the contrary. More and more people--including old hands--are using Netscape to cruise the Net. And while bookmarks are in use, not everyone messes with them because of the clumsy URL management system that some browsers have. At any rate, more and more folks are hopping back and forth between Usenet and the Web. I just did that a moment ago to get Tacoma Park's population figure. Such usage could mean more informed posts. The easier we can make the Web- newsgroup combo, the better. Abbreviations? That won't cut it. Use of common, obvious words makes things much more open. I'd like newbies to be able to scan down a list of newsgroups and think something like, "Aha! There's Virginia and there's Alexandria." The concern has also been expressed that the word "general" could be used to alert news administrators that subgroups exist within va.alexandria. This needn't be a problem, however. We're talking about a locally distributed group, and not *that* great a number of sites involved. Nor is there really any worry that people in a "forsale" offshoot would be resent the lack of a "general." I say: Keep things as simple as possible for *local* users, for whom va.alexandria or alexandria.news (or whatever it's called) would exist. I'd caution folks in other cities: what applies to us could apply to you. Your local concerns are not net.clutter in *local* groups. Believe me, I myself just might be a hierarchial purist if this were a proposal for the Big Seven or Eight or whatever they're up to. Here, however, we're talking about local distribution--about a group in the spirit of, say, the triangle groups in North Carolina. Out-of- towners would be welcome to participate, but Alexandrians would count here, just as Research Triangle residents matter the most down there. Why there's even a music group for Chapel Hill (possibly in a different hierarchy). "Local" is the big word on people's minds. They want to be able to cruise around but also to check in to see what's happening in their own cities. An Alexandria newsgroup would accomplish this objective in the spirit of the Net. Hey, the Net has undergone a lot of criticism lately for distracting people from their immediate surroundings and civic concerns--here's a positive response. David Rothman | rothman@clark.net
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