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Re: Go To HELL, Brunell! Moss & Randle El, And Can't Score Well?

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From: Brian Whiting
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 03:48
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"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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>
> Joe seems to have developed a stupid stubborn steak in his old age that he 
> didn't use to have in his younger days.
>

Before you get too sentimental, Gibbs has always had a stubborn streak about 
him.  In 1984, Theismann was terrible and Gibbs kept on playing the party 
line.  I always remember that at the time that he got hurt, it was like God 
himself was saying "Change the quarterback".

> How many times does someone have to get kicked in the head before they 
> figure out that an approach isn't going to work?
>
> And Joe keeps playing "company man" and favorites, totally destroying his 
> relationships with other players, like the meltdown HE caused with Ramsey 
> last year, a meltdown that cost him his superbowl run when he had no one 
> to replace the battered Brunnell in the clutch.
>

WOAH!!!!  Begging your pardon governor, but it was a certain Steve Spurrier 
that caused the problems with Ramsey.  He was so shelled after that year 
under pitch and catch, that he clearly suffered from post-traumatic stress 
disorder.

> (And note that every time Joe had to change quarterbacks late in the 
> season, he MADE the Superbowl.)
>

Ummm.  Hunh?  Of the four superbowls that Gibbs went to, 82 he had one 
quarterback, 83 he had one quarterback, and 91 he had one quarterback.  And 
if memory serves, he only changed in 87 because of injuries.  Unless you're 
counting the quarterback change from the replacement games (I forget the 
guys name, but I remember that the Redskins were the only team not to have a 
single player cross the picket line so they had to have a different 
quarterback playing those games).

As for changing, let's take a look.

1992 -- no change all Rypien
1991 -- no change all Rypien
1990 -- Trio of Rutledge, Humphries, and Rypien -- Lost in the second round 
of the playoffs.
1989 -- for the most part Rypien
1988 -- Split between Williams and Rypien -- No playoffs 7-9 record.
1987 -- Shroeder to Williams -- 7-4 record plus other guys gave them a 4-0 
boost.  Won it all (Woo hoo).
1986 -- All Shroeder (except for one pass by Williams)
1985 -- Week 11 God told Gibbs to make the change from Theismann to 
Shroeder -- No post season.
1984 -- All Theismann
1983 -- All Theismann
1982 -- All Theismann
1981 -- For all intents and purposes Theismann.  Tom Flick played a few 
games but I don't think he started any.  The famous 0-5 and 1-6 start that 
needed 3 straight wins to finish 8-8.

Out of four years that he made quarterback changes in the season, 3 of them 
turned out bad.  I think I've discovered the fallacy of your logic.  It's 
doesn't seem to have it's basis in fact.

-- 
Brian J. Whiting
CompAid@rcn.com
Brian.Whiting@crossmark.com 
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