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Article #130Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill?
From: USA_First
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:00
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In article <374E1DB5.A81FFD61@bga.com>, Jim Herring <mustang@bga.com> wrote: > USA_First wrote: > > > An intelligent person might consider all the possible scenarios and > > plan accordingly. For instance, if I were to encounter a large, knife- > > weilding subject standing 15 feet away who looks at me and begins to > > close that space, I think pulling the trigger might be justified. > > However, discovering a 12 year old crawling back out my window with my > > 27" RCA would be legally and morally irresponsible. Don't you? > > 1. You wake up in the middle of the night, see a bugler and you're going to > consider all possible scenarios and plan accordingly. It's too late to be > considering scenarios and planning. > That is why I suggested that one plan accordingly. So that one would be prepared for an instance where there is no opportunity to consider options. Any fool (almost any fool) would realize that given the above scenario (a hard sell at that), you would not have time to make many decisions. > 2. 15 feet is a long distance is a home. Think 7 feet. In either case if > he's moving toward you with a knife it's too late to grab the gun. > Another reason to plan ahead of time. What good is a gun that is far from reach while you are most vulnerable? Such as while in bed. > 3. Believe it or not a 12 year old bugler is more likely to be carrying a > gun than a experienced 25 year old bugler. Most experienced buglers know > better (it really ups the jail time). And, the kids think it's macho. > Please list your source (statistic, credible cop websight, university study) for this fallacy. Are we to believe your expert commentary on a subject that you can not even spell correctly? > 4. You yell stop at the kid. He drops the TV, runs and gets away. Are you > going to chase him with you in your pj's, underwear, or naked? Now he's > free to do it again and come back better prepared. Or, go after other > homes, again better prepared. > > 5. How moral is it to let a thief escape and steal from someone else? Sure > you will feel bad if you shot the kid. But, he is the one who put himself > in that position. So now you stand behind the principle that murdering (and that is the legal definition of such an act) a 12 year old is valid in order to insure that he does not steal another $250 television. Nice. This is why so many people want to limit gun rights. Thank you. You do *our* cause wonders. He doesn't respect you, so why should you respect him? Murder has little to do with respect. -- USA FIRST - ADL ACLU HCI PETA NAACP(L) A computer lets u make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. -Ratliffe Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: 10004d,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid10004d,public X-Google-Thread: 10162c,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid10162c,public X-Google-Thread: f59be,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59be,public From: USA_First <usa_first@my-deja.com> Subject: Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill? Date: 1999/05/28 Message-ID: <7impn9$s6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Deja-AN: 483197462 References: <7ihsq7$ovb$2@cubacola.tninet.se> <374C811A.25A692D7@earthlink.net> <374D7712.1DE59A05@hotmail.com> <7iisnd$50n$1@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net> <374D45B3.E2C70CDB@hotmail.com> <7ik2sf$2ku$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <374E1DB5.A81FFD61@bga.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 208.25.56.72 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri May 28 19:10:35 1999 GMT Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns,talk.politics.guns,tx.guns,can.talk.guns X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)