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Article #149Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill?
From: David Voth
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
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On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:15:54 GMT, nospam@nospam.net (Ion Storm) was kind enough to write: <snip> >Personally I would be more discrete and quit about the whole affair, look at >Elmer Gatz the New Yorker who shot those youths attacking him on the subway. >If he would have not run his mouth so much he probably wouldn't have gone to >jail. I believe you are referring to David Bernard (or Bernhard?) "Bernie" Goetz. Carrying an unlicenced, concealed, loaded gun on a NYC subway is illegal. Having a gun available for self-defense in your own home is perfectly legal in any civilized place. Goetz did indeed shoot his mouth off to excess, but IIRC the persecution based its case on sympathy for the injuries suffered by teh poor unfortunate "kids" who were just trying to get some cigarette money. I liked Goetz' description of how the perps stopped being human and turned into silouette targets. Great prose unless you are a criminal defendant. :-) Surely it's Webbed somewhere, but I'm home sick today and way to lazy to track it down right now. -- Reverend David Voth, South Park Militia Clench Supreme Supervisor of the Church of the SubGenius Founder and Innkeeper of free.beer Supreme Judge of talk.politics.guns - see http://www.frenchu.com/tpg
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f59be,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gidf59be,public X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: 10004d,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid10004d,public X-Google-Thread: 10162c,90e435dcb1781200 X-Google-Attributes: gid10162c,public From: davidvoth@catholic.org (David Voth) Subject: Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill? Date: 1999/06/01 Message-ID: <37545888.978427169@news.concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 484624726 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7ihsq7$ovb$2@cubacola.tninet.se> <7impn9$s6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7imvn4$ert@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> <3754BFD0.DFBDE8E1@hotmail.com> <7j1bo7$mn0@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> <6SWYGNAMhDV3EwaZ@Mindspring.com> <D4Y43.2214$4b.50415@news2.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Xemu's Emus Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: davidvoth@catholic.org Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns,talk.politics.guns,tx.guns,can.talk.guns