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Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill?

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From: USA_First
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:00
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In article <374F633D.9E39331@bga.com>,
  Jim Herring <mustang@bga.com> wrote:
> USA_First wrote:
>
> > In article <374E1DB5.A81FFD61@bga.com>,
> >   Jim Herring <mustang@bga.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 3. Believe it or not a 12 year old bugler is more likely to be
> > carrying a
> > > gun than a experienced 25 year old bugler. Most experienced
buglers
> > know
> > > better (it really ups the jail time). And, the kids think it's
macho.
> > >
> >
> > Please list your source (statistic, credible cop websight,
university
> > study) for this fallacy.  Are we to believe your expert commentary
on a
> > subject that you can not even spell correctly?
>
> Read virtually any study on home invaders in prison.


I have read studies but never found anything that supports your claim.
So please cite one study that supports the claim that "a 12 year old
bugler is more likely to be carrying a gun than a experienced 25 year
old bugler."  It should be easy, right?  Do that or concede the point.



 And, the damn spell
> checker fucked up. Shish, spelling doesn't count for squat in a
newsgroup.
>


The point is that you have consistantly mispelled a word that you claim
to have knowledge about.  How much can you know about burglaries when
you are not familiar enough to even spell it correctly?



> > > 5. How moral is it to let a thief escape and steal from someone
else?
> > Sure
> > > you will feel bad if you shot the kid. But, he is the one who put
> > himself
> > > in that position.
> >
> > So now you stand behind the principle that murdering (and that is
the
> > legal definition of such an act) a 12 year old is valid in order to
> > insure that he does not steal another $250 television.  Nice.  This
is
> > why so many people want to limit gun rights.  Thank you.  You do
*our*
> > cause wonders.
>
> Yeap. So, you want to limit gun rights so thieves can go on to bigger
> things. You're a really good citizen.
>

I want certain limits for other reasons.  In *this* thread, I have
expressed the belief that you do not have the right to murder a child
for taking your TV.  Try to stay on topic.



> >  He doesn't respect you, so why should you respect him?
>
> I don't
>
> > Murder has little to do with respect.
>
> It ain't murder if he's in the act of robbing from the home.
>

You seem confused.  Robbery is basically taking property from another
through force or fear.  Burglary is entering a dwelling to generally
steal property.  One is in your face and the other is sneaky.

What is making this difficult for you is the attempt to justify
homicide for a simple theft.  Law (and common decency) prohibit such
acts.

--
USA FIRST - ADL    ACLU    HCI   PETA    NAACP(L)
A computer lets u make more mistakes faster than
any invention in human history with the possible
exceptions of handguns and tequila. -Ratliffe


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Subject: Re: Homeinvasion, shoot to kill?
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