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Re: figures for gun-fetiscists

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From: Marcus J Ranum
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 03:49
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donb@netcom.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>You're not particularly worried about knives?  Well, guns won't make 
>you any more dead than a knife will.

	Yeah, that's what I said. I am not particularly worried
about knives. It takes a lot more skill and effort to kill
someone with a knife than a gun, and if you've really had 6
years of hand-to-hand training, you bloody well ought to know
that by now.

> Maybe you are adept enough to
>deal with a knife-wielding attacker...I have had 6 years of Karate
>and _I_ would not presume to think that of myself.

	Also, I'll worry about knives when the murder rate with
knives gets as high as the murder rate with guns is today. The
old saying about Sam Colt making all men equal wasn't a joke.
For one thing, it is a *LOT* harder to outrun a man with a
gun, than a man with a knife. If you've really had 6 years of
hand-to-hand training, you bloody well ought to know that
by now, too.

>I may have mentioned that a neighbor once saved her husband from two
>burglars who were kicking him by shooting at them.  It so happens
>that they were an elderly couple...and, in that case, a gun was the
>only weapon that would have run the criminals off.  As it was, her
>husband suffered internal injuries from the beating.  he probably
>would have died, if she hadn't had that gun.

	I am not advocating removal of all guns from private
hands. I believe that it's time that we stop allowing individuals
with convictions for crimes of violence from being allowed to
own firearms. I believe that it's time that we begin quickly
and efficiently executing - yes - killing - individuals with
multiple convictions for crimes of violence.

	I also stated that I have never had a cause to defend
my home with a gun or any other weapon. That's true. It's also
true that I don't know of anyone who *has*. That doesn't mean
that there aren't situations where having a gun would be a
great thing! The problem is, it seems around here that the
guns are the weapon of the criminal more often than they are
the shield of the honest person. I believe it's OK for someone
who feels they need to defend their home to be able to be
armed - but I also believe it is a sign that something is
terribly wrong if people actually feel they *need* to be
ready to shoot someone who attacks them!

mjr.
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