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From: Marcus J Ranum
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 03:58
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 03:58
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>Your implication that soldiers are more "skilled" and "mature" than >civilians is laughable. Your further implication that civilian gun >ownership should therefore be severly restricted is equally laughable. They are *MUCH* more accountable. You imply that you served in the armed forces. If that's the case, you know what I'm talking about. I can assume that you never shot anyone with your service weapon while participating in a crime, or you wouldn't be posting the the net, you'd be in Ft. Leavenworth making large rocks into little ones. Military gun use and access, in my experience, *was* very restricted (except on manuevers and then ammo was restricted). In fact, one might argue that the lack of gun related criminal incidents in the military is a good indicator of the effectiveness of restricting access to guns coupled with personal accountability! Especially since you seem to feel that the army is no more "mature" than ordinary civs! If ordinary civs had as much trouble getting their hands on weapons and ammo without having to account for them as we did in the army, maybe there'd be less gun related crime, neh? [Of course, since I was a '60 gunner, I really never had a chance to go rob and steal with my '60 or use it for legitimate hunting purposes, since I had to account for every belt of ammo I was issued, and '60s are so - distinctive.] mjr.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10162c,78ab9087c515afbd X-Google-Attributes: gid10162c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-03-12 20:04:46 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tis.com!mjr From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns Subject: Re: gun-fetiscists dc.talk.guns, please Date: 13 Mar 1993 03:58:02 GMT Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc. Lines: 27 Distribution: na Message-ID: <1nrm4aINNb0e@sol.tis.com> References: <1nmbdfINNj14@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <1993Mar12.010247.4652@apgea.army.mil> <1993Mar12.174820.19201@metter.fmpmis.metter.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com