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Re: gun-fetiscists dc.talk.guns, please

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From: Doug Humphrey
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 18:28
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In article <1nrn6mINNbhr@sol.tis.com> mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) writes:
>perez@mgr.hjf.org (Charles Perez) writes:
>
>>And, now, the age-old question: who shall protect us from our protectors?
>
>	Protect yourself. Protecting yourself is not a matter of hardware,
>it's a matter of will and resolve. If you've got those, then the tools, be
>they knives, guns, or nukes, are just an implementation detail.
>	There's a very big difference between a revolutionary and a well
>armed whiner. Most of the NRA-propaganda spouting dweebs I see are the
>latter.

There surely has to be a middle ground between a revolutionary and 
a well armed whiner ;-)

I am not a revolutionary - I can't think of a given "revolution" that
I am supporting or working toward, at least not in the sense that we
are addressing here.  

I am not a well armed whiner - well armed, yes.  Whiner, no.  The 
middle ground that I seek, and that others may or may not, is the 
situation where I am given the rights to protect myself, and my 
loved ones and property.  This implies, and I would make it explicit,
that the tools to do so are available to me.  I do not want to 
depend on the police for protection; if they are available to lend
a hand in a given situation, that is great, and I certainly welcome
the help.  However, I do not want to have to count on that level of 
assistance in critical situations.  Self defense is your right.

If I misuse those tools, then punish me swiftly and with great severity,
for the misuse of them is not part of the right to have them.  If I 
am careless with them, and it causes injury to someone, then again
punishment should be swift and sure.  The whole point of wanting to
have the tools is an exercise in being responsible; a failure of 
that attitude shows that one is not qualified to have the tools.

I think there should be a middle ground on this argument, but right
now both sides are polarized, standing at the far ends of the room 
throwing rotting fruit and press releases at each other.  Before there
can be compromise, there needs to be trust.  I am not sure how to 
get there from here...

Doug
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