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Article #115Re: Is the STL too authentic... ?
From: Kennel
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 01:18
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 01:18
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Andrew Koenig (ark@research.att.com) wrote: > In article <45efb3$u7@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> kennel@msr.epm.ornl.gov writes: > > That's a good reason. Did the people who put forth the request for proposals > > mention "ability to perform safety checks if desired" as an area that was > > suitable to address? > The committee doesn't operate in terms of `requests for proposals' > in the sense I think you mean. So who sets the agenda of its scope? And what defines proposals? > But in general, safety is not very > high on the lists of concerns of the committee members. Performance > and conceptual compatibility with C are much higher, for example. > After all, if you want semantically safe languages that are fundamentally > different from C, you don't have to look very far. Perhaps the ISO standard should require that all conforming implementations' marketing documents include these two paragraphs. 1/2 :-) My personal opinion: sometimes C++ has suffered when it made some provision for "conceptual compatibility with C" when amplifying and continuing such behavior turns out (IMO) to be a mistake in context of C++. For instance, automatic conversions. I would have preferred that there be no implicit conversions, and the ones in C be allowed to remain as a 'deprecated' feature. When it cameto tightening up static type checking and other similar issues there didn't seem to be much hesitation by the committee toward promoting safety. cheers Matt > -- > --Andrew Koenig > ark@research.att.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!mbk From: mbk@jt3ws1.etd.ornl.gov (Kennel) Newsgroups: de.comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Is the STL too authentic... ? Followup-To: de.comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c++ Date: 11 Oct 1995 01:18:06 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Message-ID: <45f60e$mtp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> References: <45bv4n$a2e@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <DG7HsE.CMx@research.att.com> <45efb3$u7@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <DG98oI.4pz@research.att.com> Reply-To: kennel@msr.epm.ornl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: jt3ws1.etd.ornl.gov X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]