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Started by Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18
Mon, 02 Nov 1992 10:01
Preisunterschiede zwischen NeXT USA und BRD
Author: Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 10:01
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 10:01
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Hallo,
ich hoffe, dass ich in dieser Gruppe meine Fragen beantwortet bekomme. Vor ein
paar Tagen ist mir via Gopher eine Preisliste von NeXT USA (Stand 02.06.92) in
die Haende gefallen. Bei einem Dollarkurs von 1.50 ergeben sich zu den deutschen
Maschinen Preisunterschiede bis zu 80%. Wie kann es zu diesen Preisen kommen. Da
ich mir in der naechsten Zeit eine Maschine zulegen moechte, habe ich mir schon
Gedanken gemacht, wie ich eine Maschine aus USA bekomme. Mich wuerde
interessieren, wie es mit Zoll aussieht und was man beachten sollte.
Dies ist die Preisliste :
NeXT COMPUTERS AND PERIPHERALS
6/2/92
Computer and Information Services
125 Shepherd Laboratories
Minneapolis, MN 55455
(612) 626-4276
Prices, specifications, and availability subject to change without
notice. The Minnesota Book Center will not accept returns or exchanges
for opened boxes, and will accept defective merchandise for exchange
only at the discretion of the publisher.
_______________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________
NeXTstation Monochrome
Systems
NeXTstation Standard Configuration $ 4,064
N1100-4486 NeXTstation Turbo with 8MB RAM, 5MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTstation High-capacity Configuration $ 7,219
N1100-4491 NeXTstation Turbo with 32MB RAM, 400MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTstation Printer Configuration $ 6,349
N1100-4487 NeXTstation Turbo with 16MB RAM, 250MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
N2000 NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer (does not include a toner
cartridge)
A La Carte
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display $ 719
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English) $ 162
NeXTstation
N1100-1768 8MB RAM, 105MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 2,727
NeXTstation Turbo
N1100-4486 8MB RAM, 250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 3,183
N1100-4487 16MB RAM, 250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 4,171
N1100-4488 32MB RAM, 250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 5,616
NeXTstation Turbo
N1100-4490 16MB RAM, 400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 4,893
N1100-4491 32MB RAM, 400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 6,338
NeXTstation Color
Systems
NeXTstation Color Standard Configuration $ 6,496
N1200-4492 NeXTstation Turbo Color with 16MB RAM,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch
N4004 NeXT Sound Box
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTstation Color High-capacity Configuration $ 9,746
N1200-4495 NeXTstation Turbo Color with 32MB RAM,
400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy
N4005 MegaPixel Color Display, 21-inch
N4004 NeXT Sound Box
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTstation Color Printer Configuration $ 9,238
N1200-4493 NeXTstation Turbo Color with 32MB RAM,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch
N4004 NeXT Sound Box
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
N2000 400dpi Laser Printer (does not include a toner
cartridge)
A La Carte
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch $ 1,441
N4005 MegaPixel Color Display, 21-inch $ 2,524
N4004 NeXT Sound Box $ 90
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English) $ 162
NeXTstation Color
N1200-2322 16MB RAM, 105MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 3,767
NeXTstation Turbo Color
N1200-4492 NeXTstation Turbo Color 16MB RAM,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 4,803
N1200-4493 NeXTstation Turbo Color 32MB RAM,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 6,248
NeXTstation Turbo Color
N1200-4494 NeXTstation Turbo Color 16MB RAM,
400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 5,526
N1200-4495 NeXTstation Turbo Color 32MB RAM,
400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 6,970
NeXTcube Monochrome
Systems
NeXTcube Standard Configuration $ 7,941
N1000A-2304 NeXTcube computer with 16MB RAM, 400MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTcube High-capacity Configuration $ 11,913
N1000A-2316 NeXTcube computer with 32MB RAM, 1.4GB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
NeXTcube Server Configuration $ 17,399
N1000A-2319 NeXTcube computer with 32MB RAM, two-1.4GB hard disks,
2.88MB floppy
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
N2000 400dpi Laser Printer (does not include a toner
cartridge)
A La Carte
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display $ 719
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English) $162
NeXTcube
N1000A-2304 16MB RAM, 400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 7,060
N1000A-2305 32MB RAM, 400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 8,504
NeXTcube
N1000A-2315 16MB RAM, 1.4GB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 9,588
N1000A-2316 32MB RAM, 1.4GB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 11,032
N1000A-2317 64MB RAM, 1.4GB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 13,921
NeXTcube
N1000A-2319 32MB RAM, two-1.4GB hard disks, 2.88MB floppy $ 15,221
N1000A-2320 64MB RAM, two-1.4GB hard disks, 2.88MB floppy $ 18,110
NeXTdimension (NeXTcube with Color)
Systems
NeXTdimension Standard Configuration $ 13,805
N1000A-2305 NeXTcube computer with 32MB RAM, 400MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch
N4004 NeXT Sound Box
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
N7014-2833 NeXTdimension board, NTSC Version (16MB RAM)
NeXTdimension High-capacity Configuration $ 17,416
N1000A-2316 NeXTcube computer with 32MB RAM, 1.4GB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy
N4005 MegaPixel Color Display, 21-inch
N4004 NeXT Sound Box
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English)
N7014-2833 NeXTdimension board, NTSC Version (16MB RAM)
A La Carte
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch $ 1,441
N4005 MegaPixel Color Display, 21-inch $ 2,524
N4004 NeXT Sound Box $ 90
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English) $ 162
N7014-2833 NeXTdimension board, NTSC Version (16MB RAM) $ 3,608
N7027 NeXTdimension board, PAL Version (16MB RAM) $ 3,608
NeXT Parts
Displays
N4000A MegaPixel Monochrome Display $ 719
N4001 MegaPixel Color Display, 17-inch $ 1,441
N4005 MegaPixel Color Display, 21-inch $ 2,524
N4004 NeXT Sound Box $ 90
Printer
N2000 NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer (does not include a
toner cartridge) $ 1,297
N2001 Toner Cartridge $ 90
N2002 Paper Cassette (A4 and Letter Size) $ 54
N2003 Legal Sized Paper Cassette
(A4, Letter and Legal Size) $ 69
Mass Storage Devices
N3010-4758 CD-ROM Drive (external) (Requires SCSI connector
cable and terminator) $ 647
N3009 250MB hard disk drive (internal) $ 1,297
N3005 400MB hard disk drive (internal) $ 2,163
N3006 1.4GB hard disk drive (internal)
(NeXTcube and NeXTcube Server only) $ 4,330
Mass Storage Consumables
N5000 256MB Optical Disk (One Disk) $ 166
N5508 2.88MB Floppy Disks (Five Disks) $ 28
Memory Expansion
N7009 16MB memory expansion (4 x 4MB SIMMs) for
monochrome systems $ 1,444
N7034 16 Mb memory expansion (2 x 8MB SIMMs) $ 1,444
N7011 8MB memory (2 x 4MB SIMMs) for color systems $ 722
N7013 DSP memory expansion (96KB) $ 141
Cables
N7006 SCSI-2 to SCSI-2 cable $ 69
N7007 SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable
(includes SCSI-1 Terminator) $ 69
N7100 Thin-Ethernet connector kit $ 54
N7023 3-meter monochrome monitor cable $ 42
N7025 Serial (RS-423) synchronous modem cable $ 36
N7019 Serial (RS-423) asynchronous modem cable $ 36
N7018 Serial (RS-423) null modem cable $ 36
Documentation
N6022 NeXTbus and NBIC Technical Documentation $ 51
N6031 Network and System Administration $ 26
Starting Point
(Keyboard, Mouse, Manual, etc.)
N8504-4806 NeXT System Starting Point Kit (USA - English) $ 162
Upgrades
N7003 68040 upgrade circuit board for NeXTcube
(requires purchase of N5507 or N5516) $ 1802
N5507 Software Release 2.1 Extended on Optical $ 286
Includes the following:
Software Release 2.1 Extended on optical disk,
keyboard tilt feet and manuals.
N5516 Software Release 2 License $ 47
License ONLY - includes NO software.
Permits an owner of Software Release 2.0 or 2.1
to upgrade ONE additional system using a previously
(or concurrently) purchased N5507. One 5516 must
be ordered for EACH system to be upgraded.
In addition, one signed license agreement
(available from your local NeXT representative) must
be submitted with each order for N5516 licenses.
N7022 Software Release 2.1 Update Set $ 37
Systems with Parity Memory
NeXTstation Turbo
N1100-4510 NeXTstation Turbo with 16MB Parity,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 4,532
N1100-4511 NeXTstation Turbo with 16MB Parity,
400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 5,254
NeXTstation Turbo Color
N1200-4512 NeXTstation Turbo Color with 16MB Parity,
250MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 5,164
N1200-4513 NeXTstation Turbo Color with 16MB Parity,
400MB hard disk, 2.88MB floppy $ 5,887
NeXTcube
N1000A-3599 NeXTcube with 16MB Parity, 400MB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy $ 7,421
N1000A-3604 NeXTcube with 32MB Parity, 1.4GB hard disk,
2.88MB floppy $ 11,393
N1000A-3606 NeXTcube with 32MB Parity,
two-1.4GB hard disks, 2.88MB floppy $ 15,582
N7010 16MB Parity memory expansion (4 x 4MB SIMMs) $ 1,626
N7035 16MB Parity memory expansion (2 x 8MB SIMMs) $ 1,626
Software Products
N5512 Release 2.1 Installation Set $ 162
N5513 Release 2.1 Extensions Installation Set $ 181
N5514 NeXT GNU Source Release 2.1 $ 72
N5521 Sybase Limited SQL Server $ 217
Education Courses
E1000 Introduction to Interpersonal Computing $ 194
E1053 Technical Intro to Interpersonal Computing $ 167
E1038 Programming NeXT Computers $ 1167
E1002 NeXT System Administration $ 667
E1045 NeXT System Administration for UNIX Experts $ 500
E1046 NeXT Computers in a Mixed UNIX Environment $ 500
E1047 Administering a NeXT Classroom $ 167
E1051 NeXT System Admin for Service Technicians $ 167
E1003 NeXT Hardware Service $ 167
E1048 Configuration Planning $ 333
E1050 Advanced NeXT Sales $ 333
E1042 Course Developer Kit $ 1111
E1043 Service Video $ 33
E1060 Printer Video: ÒServicing NeXT PrintersÓ $ 33
Support Products
E1034 Technical Support Hotline (annual) $ 1389
E1035 Support Bulletin (annual) $ 111
E1058 2.2 Disk Recovery Tool Set (on CD ROM) $ 278
Service Products
E1004-1 NeXTstation and MegaPixel Display with w/105MB $ 444
E1005-1 NeXTstation and MegaPixel Display w/200MB/250MB $ 533
E1006-1 NeXTstation and MegaPixel Display w/400MB $ 622
E1007-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display
with w/105MB $ 711
E1008-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display
w/200MB/250MB $ 800
E1009-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display
w/400MB $ 889
E1010-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 21-inch Color Display
with w/105MB $ 800
E1011-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 21-inch Color Display
w/200MB/250MB $ 889
E1012-1 NeXTstation Color and MegaPixel 21-inch Color Display
w/400MB $ 978
E1013-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/40MB $ 711
E1014-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/105MB $ 711
E1015-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/200MB/250MB $ 800
E1016-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/330MB $ 889
E1017-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/400MB $ 889
E1018-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/660MB $ 978
E1019-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/1.4GB $ 1,556
E1020-1 NeXTcube/68030 NeXT Computer & MegaPixel Display
w/two-1.4GB $ 2,067
E1021-1 NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer $ 222
E1022-1 NeXTdimension Board $ 489
E1023-1 040 Upgrade Board $ 156
E1024-1 MegaPixel Display (monochrome) $ 122
E1025-1 MegaPixel 17-inch Color Display
(includes Sound Box) $ 367
E1026-1 MegaPixel 21-inch Color Display
(includes Sound Box) $ 489
E1027-1 200 or 250MB hard disk drive $ 222
E1028-1 400MB hard disk drive $ 367
E1029-1 660MB hard disk drive $ 489
E1030-1 1.4GB hard disk drive $ 733
E1031-1 256MB optical disk drive $ 367
E1032-1 CD-ROM drive $ 111
Hardware Installation Services
E1033 Hardware Installation (per unit charge) $ 111
E1039 Time & Materials Hourly Labor Rate
(2 hour minimum charge) $ 156
NeXT Chips
N7001 NBIC Prototyping Board $ 111
N7002 NeXTbus Development Kit $ 389
N7008 NBIC Chip (QTY 1) $ 39
Software Release
All NeXT computers equipped with a 105MB Hard Disk Drive offer the
following software:
End User
Workspace Managerª
NeXTmailª
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary¨
Webster's Collegiate¨ Thesaurus
Digital Librarianª
Edit
Mathematica¨
DataViz/Bridgeª (DataViz)
FaxReader
Preferences
Preview for PostScript¨
PrintManager
System Administration Applications
VT100ª Terminal Emulator
BuildDisk
BuildDOS
Install Tablet
MailManager
NetInfoManager
NetManager
PrinterTester
User Manager
Installer
Software Release Extended
All NeXT computers equipped with a 400MB, 660MB, or 1.4GB Hard Disk
Drive offer the following software in addition to the software
listed above:
End User
Oxford¨ Dictionary of Quotations
William Shakespeare, The Complete Works
TeXª Document Processing System (Radical Eye Software)
Developer Tools
Interface Builderª
Objective-C¨ Language Compiler
C++ Language Compiler
Objective-C Class Definitions
56001 DSP Tools
GNU Emacs
GNU Debugger
BUG-56ª Debugger (Ariel)
Malloc Debugger
AppInspectorª
PostScript Tools
Application Kitª
Music Kitª
Sound
On-line Technical Documentation
Re: Preisunterschiede zwischen NeXT USA und BRD
Author: Ralf E. Stranzenbach
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 21:12
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1992 21:12
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>>>>> "Kompilerpraktikum" == Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18 <cop18@lehre23.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE> writes:
Kompilerpraktikum> N5521 Sybase Limited SQL Server $ 217
Ist der denn wirklich noch verfuegbar ?
- ralf
--
Ralf E.Stranzenbach - (NeXT)-Mail: ralf@reswi.en.open.de
Fido: Ralf_Stranzenbach 2:245/5800.12
(Voice)-Phone: +49 2302 / 68403
--
(c) Ralf E. Stranzenbach - all rights reserved
Re: Preisunterschiede zwischen NeXT USA und BRD
Author: Gerhard Moeller
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 06:38
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 06:38
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In article <1992Nov2.100100.16943@informatik.uni-bremen.de> cop18@lehre23.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18) writes: > Hallo, > > ich hoffe, dass ich in dieser Gruppe meine Fragen beantwortet bekomme. Vor ein > paar Tagen ist mir via Gopher eine Preisliste von NeXT USA (Stand 02.06.92) in > die Haende gefallen. Bei einem Dollarkurs von 1.50 ergeben sich zu den deutschen > Maschinen Preisunterschiede bis zu 80%. Wie kann es zu diesen Preisen kommen. Da > ich mir in der naechsten Zeit eine Maschine zulegen moechte, habe ich mir schon > Gedanken gemacht, wie ich eine Maschine aus USA bekomme. Mich wuerde > interessieren, wie es mit Zoll aussieht und was man beachten sollte. [...] Du musst mit ca. 20 % Zoll und Steuer rechnen. (ich glaube es waren 4.9 % Zoll und 14% Steuer, aber jeweils mit Transportkosten. Ausserdem wird nacheinander berechnet, d.h. Du bezahlst auch fuer den Zoll Steuern ;-} (oder umgekehrt(?))) Aber vorsicht: Bedenke alle Risiken, die damit verbunden sind. Du minimierst sie, wenn Du jemanden (am besten einen Studierenden) in den USA _gut_ kennst. Bedenke Versicherung, Transport, Handling-Kosten. Und bedenke, was passiert, wenn Du den Kram zurueckschicken musst! Dennoch: Fuer vieles lohnt es sich. (PS: ein kleiner Tip: Check' 'mal aus, was die Workstation AG in der Schweiz fuer Preise macht. IdR sind die fuer Studies um ca. 40% billiger als BRD. Ich habe meinen Rechner uebrigens in der BRD gekauft. Nach langem hin und her... ;-) Ciao, Gerhard. -- +---------------------------< principiis obsta! >---------------------------+ N Gerhard Moeller, Teichstrasse 12, 2900 Oldenburg (FRG) [*: 02/21/1968] N e Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de Phone (voice): +49-441-75520 e X Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE X T BITNET: gmoeller%arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de@DOLUNI1 T +---------------> NoGeNUG - Northern German NeXT User Group <---------------+
Re: Preisunterschiede zwischen NeXT USA und BRD
Author: Thomas Funke
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 11:36
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 11:36
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In article <1992Nov2.100100.16943@informatik.uni-bremen.de> cop18@lehre23.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18) writes: > paar Tagen ist mir via Gopher eine Preisliste von NeXT USA (Stand 02.06.92) in > die Haende gefallen. Bei einem Dollarkurs von 1.50 ergeben sich zu den deutschen > Maschinen Preisunterschiede bis zu 80%. Wie kann es zu diesen Preisen kommen. Da > ich mir in der naechsten Zeit eine Maschine zulegen moechte, habe ich mir schon > Gedanken gemacht, wie ich eine Maschine aus USA bekomme. Mich wuerde > interessieren, wie es mit Zoll aussieht und was man beachten sollte. > Einfuhrumsatzsteuer (das ist das gleiche wie die Mehrwertsteuer) 14 %, Zoll rund 10 % und noch Transportkosten. Bei Service/Garantie siehts auch nicht so toll aus, muss doch der Rechner wieder zurueckgeshippt werden. Der Dollar steht mittlerweile wieder bei 1,60 DM, so dass ich glaube, das ganze rentiert sich kaum. Letztlich muss man sich das selbst ausrechnen .... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thomas Funke ** E-mail: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de NeXT-Developer * Unix-Consultant ------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Preisunterschiede zwischen NeXT USA und BRD
Author: Martin Weigele
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 16:47
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 16:47
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In article <1992Nov2.100100.16943@informatik.uni-bremen.de> cop18@lehre23.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Kompilerpraktikum Gruppe18) writes: > Hallo, > > ich hoffe, dass ich in dieser Gruppe meine Fragen beantwortet bekomme. Vor ein > paar Tagen ist mir via Gopher eine Preisliste von NeXT USA (Stand 02.06.92) in > die Haende gefallen. Bei einem Dollarkurs von 1.50 ergeben sich zu den deutschen > Maschinen Preisunterschiede bis zu 80%. Wie kann es zu diesen Preisen kommen. Ganz einfach, da will jemand Geld verdienen, und verlangt, was er kriegt. Im uebrigen, wer es noch nicht gemerkt hat, sind wir hier IuK-Entwicklungsland. Bei einem Selbstimport fallen meines Wissens an: 10 % Zoll 14 % Einfuhrumsatzsteuer (ab. 1.1.93 dann 15 %) wobei der Preis inklusive Frachtkosten zugrundegelegt wird. Genaueres weiss aber jedes Zollamt (ruf doch mal an). Den Zoll auf Frachtkosten kann man vermutlich sparen, wenn man rueberfliegt und die Muehle als Gepaeck mitnimmt. -- Martin Weigele, Kapellenweg 32, D-W-5300 Bonn 2 phone +49 228 333252 home, +49 228 9866385 office email: martin@weigele.de
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