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Re: Energie geht nicht verloren?

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From: g.scholten
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:52
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On 18 Jun., 21:58, Conny Heller <CH112...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > verktoriellen kinetischen Energie
>
> Auch wenn du nicht mitkommst, der Standardhamiltonean
> H=-(m/2)Nabla^2+V zeigt ja, daß die kinetische Energie,
> die du meinst nur deshalb nicht mehr richtungsabhängig ist,
> weil ihr Quadrat,

- hbar^2 nabla^2 ist nicht das Quadrat der Energie, sondern des
Impulses

\op{p} = -i hbar nabla

Die Energie ist H. Klassisch gilt nichtrelativistisch die Energie-
Impuls-Beziehung

E_kin = \vec{p}^2/2m

Das Quadrat des Impulsvektors ist ein Skalar, und somit auch die
Energie.
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Subject: Re: Energie geht nicht verloren?
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