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Re: Jews from Germany should return there

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From: Pacific Bell
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:21
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> (Die Juden sollen dahin zur�ckgehen, woher sie kamen)
>
> Die Welt: The new Intifada is named after the Al-Aqsa Mosque which is
> on the Temple Mount. On January 4, the Chief Rabbinate declared that
> Jewish Halacha (Religious Law) prohibits "the transfer of sovereignty
> over the Temple Mount to foreigners, whether directly or indirectly",
> for it is the holiest place for the Jewish people. Four days later,
> you declared in a Fatwa that the place is Muslim in its entirety. Is
> this an unsolvable contradiction?
> Sabri: There is not [even] the smallest indication of the existence
> of a Jewish temple on this place in the past. In the whole city,
> there is not even a single stone indicating Jewish History. Our
> right, on the other hand, is very clear. This place belongs to us for
> 1500 years. Even when it was conquered by the Crusaders, it remained
> Al-Aqsa, and we got it back soon afterwards. The Jews do not even
> know exactly where their temple stood. Therefore, we do not accept
> that they have any rights, underneath the surface or above it.
>
> Die Welt: It is agreed among archeologists that the Wailing-Wall is
> part of the foundation of Herod's temple. The Bible and other antique
> sources report about this place in detail. Why can't you respect the
> Jewish connection to this place?
> Sabri: It is the art of the Jews to deceive the world. But they can't
> do it to us. There is not a single stone in the Wailing-Wall relating
> to Jewish History. The Jews cannot legitimately claim this wall,
> neither religiously nor historically. The Committee of the League of
> Nations recommended in 1930, to allow the Jews to pray there, in
> order to keep them quiet. But by no means did it acknowledge that the
> wall belongs to them.
>
> Die Welt: Why don't you allow Israeli scientists to dig there to look
> for possible remnants and proofs for or against the existence of the
> Jewish temple?
> Sabri: We categorically reject all excavations under the Al-Aqsa
> mosque, because they would endanger the historical buildings on the
> site. Besides, they have already dug everywhere. All they could find
> were remnants of buildings from the Omayyad-period. Everything they
> excavated was related to Arabs and Muslims.
>
> Die Welt: King Hussein once proposed "Divine Sovereignty" over Temple
> Mount, in order to reduce the tensions between peoples and religions
> there.
> Sabri: We accept God's sovereignty. That is why this mosque is called
> Al-Aqsa. Allah himself gave it this name. Allah wants the place to
> belong to the Muslims and to no one else. This is acceptable to us.
>
> Die Welt: Would you agree, if necessary, to the internationalization
> of the city, in order to manage these unsolvable problems?
> Sabri: An internationalized Jerusalem would be worse for us than a
> Zionist Jerusalem. In such a case, the entire world, and not only one
> state, would be against us. This would be a regression to colonial
> times.
>
> Die Welt: On March 23, the Pope said in Jerusalem: "Religion must
> never be an excuse for the use of force especially when religious
> identity overlaps with cultural and national identity." How would you
> answer him?
> Sabri: Any religious man would agree with that. We also believe that
> religion is not the reason for the hatred between peoples. Only those
> without religion ignore that. But who are they? Who occupies and
> destroys other peoples and their property?
>
> Die Welt: The Intifada is also violent. Wasn't the peaceful
> resistance with which Gandhi ended British colonialism in India, more
> successful?
> Sabri: We have fought for peace without using violence since 1967.
> But no one listened to us. We won resolutions in the UN, but no one
> lifted a finger for us.
>
> Die Welt: In your July 2000 Fatwa you declared: "We insist on the
> Right of Return for all the 1948 refugees and prohibit them from
> getting compensations for [the loss] of the Holy Land, for it has no
> price. What are the borders of this Holy Land that you refer to?
> Sabri: From an Islamic point of view, it stretches from the
> Mediterranean to the Jordan [River]. It is Palestine in its entirety.
>
> Die Welt: And there is no place for the Israelis?
> Sabri: For the Jews who lived here before, there will be a place, of
> course. But all those Jews who came here from all over the world,
> must return to the places from where they came. The Jews from Germany
> should return to Germany. (laughs) After all, you like them so much,
> don't you?
>
> Die Welt: Does this mean, that there is no place here for a Jewish
> state?
> Sabri: I didn't address this issue in my Fatwa. All I said was that
> the refugees must return. I didn't say anything about the borders.
>
> Interview with Ikrima Sabri, Mufti of Jerusalem, appointed by the
> Palestinian authority, in the German newspaper Die Welt, January 17,
> 2001.
> Translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), an
> independent, non-profit organization providing translations of the
> media of the Middle East.
>
>
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